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Otto Nomous soydog at riseup.net
Wed Jan 7 02:03:13 PST 2004


Hi Bart and all new-imc volunteers. The indybay.org group has no 
intention of creating a flame war here. I've been trying to rationally 
respond to and make points about our demands. I do apologize though, 
about this taking up time of other volunteers. This situation has also 
wasted so much time for everyone involved throughout the past year.

We brought this issue to the new-imc working group because this is an 
issue having to do with a new-imc group violating the indymedia 
Principles of Unity. We do believe that the new-imc group should be 
able to deal with this. And we couldn't just sit by while Ryan's group 
continues to spread lies and baseless accusations about us when people 
were trying to figure out what actually happened based on what was 
being posted here.

We really believe that the new-imc group should re-think who gets 
sf.indymedia.org based on what has occured here.

While we in no way want to take the time away from volunteers with 
things they shouldn't be dealing with, we also do not want to be in a 
situation where a group that has abused their tech power ends up 
screwing over another for personal reasons, and no one in the network 
being able to help.

-Jino

On Wednesday, January 7, 2004, at 01:36  AM, Pseudo Punk wrote:

> Hey,
>
> As far as i know new-imc was setup to facilitate NEW groups into 
> joining
> the imc network. it is a sub-group of imc process.
>
> I don't think flamewars betweeen existing imc's belong here. if people
> who actually do new-imc work think this discussion  belongs here i 
> quit this group 1
> second later.
>
> I propose we block every mail about sf - sfbay from now on.
>
> I think sf -sfbay people are mature enogh to find a reasonable way to
> deal with their problems that doesn't include stealing the time of
> volunteers working in an working-group that shouldn't deal with these
> problems.
>
> Bart
>
>
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