[New-imc] what can the global lists do?

[zogren at yahoo.com]

Sorry for emailing this to so many lists but I dont know what else to do :(

It looks like the sf.indymedia.org collective
turned off our radio link without telling us
( the site was www.enemeycombatantradio,org )
They are claiming they didnt mess with the DNS entry
but all the technical people we know say only they
could have done this since they control the DNS entry.
(and how can we know what to do if they own our DNS
entry, and the DNS entry stops working and their only
response is to say its our own problem and they didnt
do it)

What can be done?

Its not as bad as them turning off our site (but perhaps for the
people who only do radio work it is) but if it was intentional
it does seem like a threat. Luckilly we have a backup url for the radio
we can link to from our site but that doesnt help the many people around
the world who directly link to the radio site who will now have
broken links.

If the response is just a call for more mediation I am a little scared.
If they turn off our site will there also be no real consequences??
Anyways, Im a little scared; we are at the other groups mercy
and there doesnt seem to be anything in the global network that
can stop them from turning our site off if we cant get full ownership over
our DNS entry (www.indybay.org).

Perhaps the fact that the group messing up our site also controls
many shared Indymedia global resources (and runs many sites)
can be used to pressure them to act humanely towards us?

I just want to work on doing reporting for our local collective,
why are they doing this to us?

:(

-Z

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "mark burdett" <mark at indymedia.org>
To: "A process discussion list for U.S.-based IMCs"
<imc-us-process at lists.indymedia.org>
Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:27 PM
Subject: Re: [imc-us-process]enemycombatantradio.org now gone


The DNS servers were removed from the enemycombatantradio.org domain
registration, which gives the domain "INACTIVE" status, meaning it is
now unreachable from the internet.  This happened at 07-Jan-2004
06:46:26 UTC.

This must have been done by the person from the SF group who originally
registered the enemycombatantradio.org domain -- no one else could have
modified the domain registration (the domain registration password
hasn't yet been given to the ECR/SF Bay Area IMC group).

The site is now available via its alternative domain,
enemycombatantradio.net; however all existing publicity materials and
links use enemycombatantradio.org

--mark B.

On 07 Jan 2004, at 14:18, gekked at blackflag.net wrote:

>> Now the SF group has pointed the domain
>> http://enemycombatantradio.org away from the site. ECR
>> is a web radio station affiliated with indybay.org
>
> Huh? To clarify, SF-IMC has not discussed, decided, or even mentioned
> this domain name ever, at least not since the mediation.
>
> Looking at the whois, it is owned by:
> Registrant Organization:Enemy Combatant Radio
> Registrant Street1:185 Berry
> Registrant City:San Francisco
> Registrant Email:vex at saturn5.com
>
> I have absolutely no idea who this is and I wasn't around when this
> was registered.
>
> Please quit blaming us for your problems on global lists before you
> take the time to find out what is going on.
> -gek/sf-imc