[New-imc] what can the global lists do?

[Kristen E. Kordecki]

OK.  It looks like there is a big problem with SF that extends beyond basic 
issues.  Can we please find a venue that addresses all things that apply to 
SF issues, including Radio and other server issues.

This is out of control in that we don't have one place to address a 
multitude of issues that extend to one problem.

Can we find one place to deal with all issues revolving around SF?  It 
makes more sense to deal with ALL issues at one place rather than spreading 
them out to all the lists...

Kristen

At 03:34 PM 1/7/2004 -0800, zogren at yahoo.com wrote:
>Sorry for emailing this to so many lists but I dont know what else to do :(
>
>It looks like the sf.indymedia.org collective
>turned off our radio link without telling us
>( the site was www.enemeycombatantradio,org )
>They are claiming they didnt mess with the DNS entry
>but all the technical people we know say only they
>could have done this since they control the DNS entry.
>(and how can we know what to do if they own our DNS
>entry, and the DNS entry stops working and their only
>response is to say its our own problem and they didnt
>do it)
>
>What can be done?
>
>Its not as bad as them turning off our site (but perhaps for the
>people who only do radio work it is) but if it was intentional
>it does seem like a threat. Luckilly we have a backup url for the radio
>we can link to from our site but that doesnt help the many people around
>the world who directly link to the radio site who will now have
>broken links.
>
>If the response is just a call for more mediation I am a little scared.
>If they turn off our site will there also be no real consequences??
>Anyways, Im a little scared; we are at the other groups mercy
>and there doesnt seem to be anything in the global network that
>can stop them from turning our site off if we cant get full ownership over
>our DNS entry (www.indybay.org).
>
>Perhaps the fact that the group messing up our site also controls
>many shared Indymedia global resources (and runs many sites)
>can be used to pressure them to act humanely towards us?
>
>I just want to work on doing reporting for our local collective,
>why are they doing this to us?
>
>:(
>
>-Z
>
>----- Original Message -----
>From: "mark burdett" <mark at indymedia.org>
>To: "A process discussion list for U.S.-based IMCs"
><imc-us-process at lists.indymedia.org>
>Sent: Wednesday, January 07, 2004 2:27 PM
>Subject: Re: [imc-us-process]enemycombatantradio.org now gone
>
>
>The DNS servers were removed from the enemycombatantradio.org domain
>registration, which gives the domain "INACTIVE" status, meaning it is
>now unreachable from the internet.  This happened at 07-Jan-2004
>06:46:26 UTC.
>
>This must have been done by the person from the SF group who originally
>registered the enemycombatantradio.org domain -- no one else could have
>modified the domain registration (the domain registration password
>hasn't yet been given to the ECR/SF Bay Area IMC group).
>
>The site is now available via its alternative domain,
>enemycombatantradio.net; however all existing publicity materials and
>links use enemycombatantradio.org
>
>--mark B.
>
>On 07 Jan 2004, at 14:18, gekked at blackflag.net wrote:
>
> >> Now the SF group has pointed the domain
> >> http://enemycombatantradio.org away from the site. ECR
> >> is a web radio station affiliated with indybay.org
> >
> > Huh? To clarify, SF-IMC has not discussed, decided, or even mentioned
> > this domain name ever, at least not since the mediation.
> >
> > Looking at the whois, it is owned by:
> > Registrant Organization:Enemy Combatant Radio
> > Registrant Street1:185 Berry
> > Registrant City:San Francisco
> > Registrant Email:vex at saturn5.com
> >
> > I have absolutely no idea who this is and I wasn't around when this
> > was registered.
> >
> > Please quit blaming us for your problems on global lists before you
> > take the time to find out what is going on.
> > -gek/sf-imc
>
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