[New-imc] clariication,

[valentine V eben]

May be the more important question we should discuss is what is the cause of the failure of so many imcs. What is it that makes very active imcs with lots of multivated activists suddenly go in active. Is the some thing we are ignoring?? Why are imc acitivsts able to suddenly lost their multivation for their imcs and yet still be politiclally active and involved in other projects, so what is it that kills multivation here. My two cents.
Sphinx
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--------- Original Message ---------

DATE: Fri, 9 Jan 2004 02:56:42 
From: Shayne O'Neill <shayne at guild.murdoch.edu.au>
To: Mike R <micro.zen at verizon.net>
Cc: new-imc at lists.indymedia.org

>
>Was just throwing that out there btw. not tying it to the other proposal
>:)
>
>Just thought that it was apropriate to bring up as we are talking process
>change.
>
>------------------------------------
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>-Aesop.
>Shayne O'Neill. Indymedia. Fun.
>http://www.perthimc.asn.au
>
>On Fri, 9 Jan 2004, Shayne O'Neill wrote:
>
>>
>> Would it be worth also introducing the 3 month trial concept as a
>> standard idea , or see how it plays out with qc first?
>>
>> I think the 3 months of more intensive mentoring and evaluation (to weed
>> out dud imcs) is an idea worth its time. the debris of failed imcs down
>> the sidebar is a testament to this.
>>
>> ------------------------------------
>> "Must not Sleep! Must warn others!"
>> -Aesop.
>> Shayne O'Neill. Indymedia. Fun.
>> http://www.perthimc.asn.au
>>
>> On Thu, 8 Jan 2004, Mike R wrote:
>>
>> > Hi clara & Bart,
>> >
>> > There is no urgency on the proposal & we can extend the deadline.  how
>> > is
>> >
>> >  DEADLINE Wed 28 Jan 2004 17:00 GMT
>> >
>> > ??
>> >
>> > Also, the proposal won't change much but will prevent a working group
>> > member from rushing through a personal application.
>> >
>> > -Mike
>> >
>> > Thursday, January 08, 2004, 5:16:31 AM, clara said:
>> >
>> > c> i support this,
>> >
>> > c> but in general I think that proposal that doesn't have an immediate urgency
>> > c> should have a deadline of at least a week.
>> >
>> > c> love and solidarity,
>> > c> clara
>> >
>> >
>> > c> At 01:07 8-1-2004, Mike R wrote:
>> > >>Reviewing the message trail of how the sf.indymedia.org proposal
>> > >>passed
>> > >>http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2003-November/004633.html
>> > >>it did pass ususually.  There was no declared sponsor for the
>> > >>collective.  The new-imc working group member who championed it was
>> > >>Gekked, who is a member of the new applying collective.  He set the
>> > >>deadline and also sent the message to imc-process that the proposed
>> > >>imc passed.
>> > >>
>> > >>In order to avoid this sort of conflict of interest in the future, I
>> > >>propose that all IMC application have a sponsor who is not a member of
>> > >>the applying collective.
>> > >>
>> > >>This is a forward-looking proposal and cannot apply retroactively.
>> > >>
>> > >>--
>> > >>  Mike
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> > --
>> > Mike
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