[New-imc] Proposed new imc Valparaiso

[libby]

Hi Meghan,

You're not alone in this, maybe present procedure leaves to be desired, 
but that should be anounced and discussed, preferably with a 
constructive proposal to solve it. Single handed changes are so 
disrespectfull to the rest of the group. Before we know it we'll have 
of  official imc's that say "fuck you" to the imc principles from day 
one. I wonder why we bother putting time and effort in helping people 
make proper imc's (sometimes with a lot of sweat and even tears) when 
others just send them trhough process and pronounce them in spite of a 
lot off criticism.

Greetings,

Libby

Greetings

meghan at ucimc.org wrote:

>Libby,
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>it was announced to this list that IMC Valparaiso would be moved to IMC
>Process
>(http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/new-imc/2004-June/005152.html). As
>far as I can tell, I seem to be the only one who's confused and/or upset
>that this does not follow process at all.
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>-meghan
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>On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, libby wrote:
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>>Hey,
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>>I was browsing through the process archives and i found this mail
>>http://lists.indymedia.org/pipermail/imc-process/2004-June/005907.html
>>it proposes a deadline for the proposed IMC Valparaiso without it having
>>had one on this list (a   t least i cannot find an approval mail on this
>>list for the sais imc on the date it was posted on process (june 11th)
>>There are still quite a few issues regarding this imc, even if there
>>isn't a formal block. Anyway, the imc wasn't formally pronounced passed
>>on this list (and i don't think it should be till the issueas at hand
>>are properly dealth with)
>>So could we please stick to the proper order of doing things, first get
>>a a proposed imc through newimc and only subsequently to process.
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>>Its very nice to have a lot of people participate in the new imc working
>>group, aznd i appreciate everybodies effort, but i would also appreciate
>>if everybody would have enough respect for the other people working with
>>this group to
>>a) take their considerations, doubts,... etc. about proposed new
>>collectives into account without steering towards formal blocks (they
>>make work so much more difficult)
>>b) have the decency to follow the procedure that was agreed to or at
>>least put that up for discussion before single handely ignoring/changing it
>>c) have the necessary politeness to at least warn the rest of the group
>>if they decide to thow the procedure that was agreed upon overboard and
>>get a new imc approved only by process without proposing or pronouncing
>>it on newimc
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>>Greetings,
>>
>>Libby
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