[New-imc] PROPOSAL: Darwin Indymedia Centre. Deadline 29-june

[Shayne O'Neill]

Look. I do apologise for being a little agressive, but I do feel, that
there is a barrier to entry to indy that doent need to happen where if a
group comes in while a debate is in progress they get roundly ignored.

*precisely* the same thing happened to perth (we came in around the time
of the arc/rougeIMC saga) and it was quite upsetting. One feels ignored
and starts wondering "what ARE we doing wrong".

The result of ignored new IMC's are a weakened network , because the new
IMC (A) Does not get the correct help in getting to work, and (B) 'crap'
IMC's slip thru.

So yes. I put the deadline up and pointed out that if its blocked one
would bloody well hope that the block-ee has a good reason.

Is it a gun to the head? I suppose. But darwin deserve better than to be
ignored.

And now they are not. Unorthodox method of doing it, I concede , but it
works.

So sorry all, but they have been *pleading* for someone to get them thru
the process for over a month now and NOBODY was responding to them.

--
"the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And
we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003

Shayne O'Neill. http://www.perthimc.asn.au

On Mon, 21 Jun 2004, clara wrote:

> Dear Shayne, dear all,
>
> I think once in a while a new group might be overlooked for different
> reasons. Maybe nobody hast time, maybe everybody thinks that somebody
> else is dealing for it, maybe it's just a bit of lack of structure.
>
> However, as every other indymedia working group, new-imc is done by
> volunteers with all the the same level of responsibility. Nobody can
> demand that somebody else is doing something that s/he does not do
> her/himself.
>
> The only thing you can do, is pointing out that something needs to be
> done, and say that you don't have time etc at the moment. Agressively
> demanding that somebody else does something, or even skipping the
> process won't help.
>
> If you just want a new imc approved because they asked for it,
> independently of whether they have their papers (and the internal
> discussions that go with it), and because you are angry with the rest of
> the working group, then maybe you should take a break for a while.
>
> You are not helping anybody like that. In fact you are undermining the
> work of this group, and especially the great work you have done with
> several and especially with difficult IMCs so far.
>
> Love and solidarity,
> Clara
>
> Shayne O'Neill wrote:
>
> > The point being is that after numerous attempts to get attention, they
> > have been ignored. Frankly it is deeply unfair to have a collective
> > discriminated against by the laziness of others.
> >
> > Yes its volenteer driven, but common courtesy goes along way.
> >
> > --
> > "the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And
> > we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
> > George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003
> >
> > Shayne O'Neill. http://www.perthimc.asn.au
> >
> > On Sun, 20 Jun 2004, Pseudo Punk wrote:
> >
> >
> >>Shayne O'Neill <shayne at guild.murdoch.edu.au> wrote:
> >>
> >>>Right.
> >>>
> >>>Heres the deal. I dont have time to do this. I've explained this in
> >>>multiple emails. But since every other fucker on this list seems obsessed
> >>>with sectarian quibbling over minutae on whatever, I'm putting this
> >>>proposal through.
> >>>
> >>>I dont know if they have all the paper work in order. I dont care.
> >>>
> >>>If you wish to block this, then I HOPE YOU ARE PREPARED TO FOLLOW IT
> >>>THROUGH AND HELP THEM GET SHIT IN ORDER.
> >>
> >>get real.
> >>this is *volunteer driven*. if no one does it, it just doesn't happen.
> >>Bart
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>>Anoyed,
> >>>Shayne.
> >>>
> >>>--
> >>>"the vast majority of Iraqis want to live in a peaceful, free world. And
> >>>we will find these people and we will bring them to justice."
> >>>George W. Bush, Washington, D.C., Oct. 27, 2003
> >>>
> >>>Shayne O'Neill. http://www.perthimc.asn.au
> >>>
> >>>On Wed, 16 Jun 2004, Gary Meyerhoff wrote:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>>Hello people
> >>>>
> >>>>can someone tell us what we have to do now with Darwin
> >>>>Indimedia (http://darwin.perthimc.asn.au). We have
> >>>>submitted ed pol etc but we don't get any responses
> >>>>from this list. What do we do now?
> >>>>
> >>>>Gary M
> >>>>Darwin
> >>>>
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