[IMC-Process] RE: [Imc-cleveland] Re: [New-imc] Re: [IMC-Tech] Re: [IMC-Editorial] Warning! Aryan nations using your bandwidth!!! -from Boston IMC

[ferry Ben]

hi,
> >moderation could be seen as censurship by the
> ppl who use indymedia...and we didnt want to get on
> this position...
maybe i should have added:
"althought we do hide them after they were posted to
the web site we are against of doing it before it is
posted..like the use of a filter would do"
that is the position of brasil so far we will have a
national meeting by the end of the year so this is not
a definitive position...
but yeah we do have concerns of hiding the enemies
posts before they are posted to the site...many ppl in
brasil see pre-moderation as censurship...we have a
past that makes this a critical concern point.
and it cant be decided just to clean up faster the
right colunm of the website it has to be sit down and
discussed..and i believe in the end of the year that
is what will happen
ciao
toya



> 
> Editing is not censorship.  Stuff is moved, not
> removed. Global news 
> goes in [global], local news goes in [local], and
> trash goes in 
> [hidden]. It's all still there. It's all still
> readable. It's all 
> still able to be commented upon. By hiding enemy
> propaganda, we 
> merely tag it as something of which we do not
> approve.
> 
> Besides, by definition, censorship is only possible
> by governments.
> 
> Personally, I think hiding enemy propaganda is not
> enough. It should 
> be completely and permanently removed.  If 
> Indymedia cannot 
> consensus to ban enemy propaganda, then its
> credibility in this world 
> will be nil, and it's very reason for existing will
> have been 
> negated. This is precisely the goal of at least some
> of the people 
> who are currently abusing Indymedia's hospitality.
> If they are 
> permitted to succeed, not only will Indymedia be
> doomed, but the 
> entire Global Justice Movement will suffer, and with
> it our planet, 
> and untold generations of her people. This is not an
> acceptable 
> option.
> 
> Ergo, those IMC locals and individual IMCistas,
> which insist on 
> discrediting Indymedia, should be ostracized by
> those of us who do 
> consense. This should be done at the DNS level, as
> well as on our 
> front pages, and the sooner the better. Yesterday
> would have been 
> good, and the day before even better. If you are
> going to use our 
> name and logo, you must not discredit them. If you
> are going to 
> discredit them, you must not be allowed to use our
> name and logo.
> 
> This may sound harsh, but it the political reality
> of the situation. 
> If, for example, you allow Nazi propaganda to be
> published under your 
> name and logo, people will naturally assume that you
> are a supporter 
> of Nazism. And they will be right. And nothing else
> you say will be 
> taken seriously, ever again, by anybody who knows,
> not even the Nazis 
> themselves.
> 
> In journalism, credibility is everything. Unless we
> can successfully 
> defend our credibility, Indymedia will fail at its
> most basic 
> mission, and all the work we have put into it will
> have been for 
> nothing.
> 
> The fascists must be driven out, so must the
> racists, war mongers, 
> homophobes, misogynists, colonialists, and
> apologists for 
> exploitation, ecocide, and torture, and anyone who
> defends them.
> 
> Speech is free, bandwidth is not. That these
> miscreants be required 
> to provide their own bandwidth is not an
> infringement of their 
> freedom of speech. It is an affirmation of our own.
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