[Seattle-editorial] Dennis Bejin

[anarch3m]

We have some issues less theoretical facing the network in regards censoring.  If anything, I feel, we should be more adamant not to cave over petty issues at this time.  Giving in to our problem with the mennace will NOT strenghten our stand regarding what's abroad.
walt 
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On Thu, 01 Aug 2002 17:02:56  
 Troy Prouty wrote:
>I certainly disagree with his content - however I think that IMC should not 
>act - Time will take care of it - people will bother him enough that he will 
>tone it down or leave...  I think it is safe to just let it be and watch to 
>make sure no threats go out on either side !
>
>Thanks.. Troy*
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>>From: jonathan lawson <jonathan at indymedia.org>
>>To: editorial at seattle.indymedia.org
>>Subject: [Seattle-editorial] Dennis Bejin
>>Date: Wed, 31 Jul 2002 09:53:44 -0700
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>>The noise level is rising with this guy, his posts, the flame responses to
>>them and his consequent dissing of the IMC and increasing
>>self-referentiality... should we open a conversation about intervening?
>>
>>I've been ignoring his posts because we have no mechanism for removing
>>posts based on objectionable content unless it's REALLY objectionable--i.e.
>>its perceived offensiveness to a group of people would chase people away
>>from the site if left unchecked, and that concern would have to outweigh
>>our goal of opening publishing privileges to everyone.
>>
>>I haven't thought DB's posts have risen about that bar. Provocative, yes,
>>maybe repugnant, but prudishness is not a valid reason to remove a post.
>>
>>However, the sheer magnitude and repetitiveness of the posts is clogging up
>>the newswire. His literally daily posts are generally not duplicates of
>>each other (that would make removing them easy) not are they usually just
>>links (also an easy call to remove)... but I think a suggestion MIGHT be
>>made that they are all basically the same thing over and over
>>again--pedophiles are victims of discrimination, pedophilia is normal,
>>pedophiles are people too, yada yada--and that the ceaseless repetition is
>>less of a get-the-word-out journalistic effort than it is a conscious
>>attempt to jam our site. THAT would be a violation of our policy, as a
>>newswire poster actually pointed out yesterday (see
>>http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=16508).
>>
>>We have made decisions twice to remove en masse "classifications of posts"
>>by a particular author --not banning them per se, but defining a class of
>>their posts which were verboten past and future. We discussed carefully the
>>decision and them posted it on the website for purposes of transparency.
>>This was effective, long term, in dealing with the J.C. and Robert Meade
>>"Bobby" "Israel" Deaf Messenger problems, and the same thing might be done
>>here even though this guy's schtick isn't as insane as Bobby's or as
>>virulent as J.C.'s.
>>
>>My comments are mean to provoke discussion. Thoughts?
>>
>>[his posts recently have gotten more self-referential, and contain more
>>attacks on the IMC and other posters.. maybe giving him a little more rope
>>will make an eventual decision easier.]
>>
>>jl
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