[Seattle-editorial] Jonathon's just due

[Joseph]

Eddie's,
I would humbly recommend a full scale roasting of Mr. Jonathon Lawson. We
all owe him a few, and I for one would like an opportunity to give him a
piece of my mind. Not that he needs much of my mush, but yes, something
between a roasting and a BBQ would allow the smoke to clear.
Joseph

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From: seattle-editorial-admin at lists.indymedia.org
[mailto:seattle-editorial-admin at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf Of Troy
Prouty
Sent: Thursday, November 07, 2002 1:49 PM
To: sheri at indymedia.org; susan at gleason.net;
seattle-editorial at lists.indymedia.org
Subject: Re: [Seattle-editorial] Editorial Collective -- thoughts, and
year-end inventory


If you toast Jonathan, that would be cruel and painful, besides that on
toasted, then what?  I thought you were not for violence ?






>From: Sheri Herndon <sheri at indymedia.org>
>To: Susan <susan at gleason.net>, seattle-editorial at lists.indymedia.org
>Subject: Re: [Seattle-editorial] Editorial Collective -- thoughts, and
>year-end inventory
>Date: Thu, 7 Nov 2002 13:22:11 -0800
>
>WOW susan.  what an amazing compilation and record.
>and i definitely think we should toast jonathan!
>
>i think a meeting would be great for helping us all move some things
>forward and to feel the collective nature of this group.  the editorial
>group has not met in a long time, but i remember those meetings as some of
>the most inspiring, intellectually stimulating and inspiring meetings of my
>entire indymedia involvement.  i would love to participate in some capacity
>(even if i don't write feature these days - i would like to contribute).
>getting together seems like a good thing to do no matter what.  i am open
>for meeting informally over beers tonight if we have enough momentum.
>
>and thanks so much susan for pulling together this invaluable information
>which allows us to see our features in a snapshot....one feature every 4
>days is quite a good record and i have been very inspired by the work of
>jonathan and others who contribute.  i also know that often the global
>www-features group looks to the seattle features as ones to highlight.  so
>people are seeing our good work outside our local community as well.
>
>peace
>sheri
>
>At 12:33 PM -0800 11/7/02, Susan wrote:
>>Hi folks,
>>
>>In reference to recent comments by Lance and Joseph regarding the
>>longevity of features in the top slot, I thought it might be helpful to
>>look at an inventory of Seattle IMC features over the past year (see full
>>list below).
>>
>>I think that the inventory can be useful for a number of purposes ....
>>maybe we, as the editorial collective can take the opportunity to look at
>>our total efforts over the past twelve months, and create some goals for
>>the months ahead. Let's especially think about Dec-Jan coverage ... last
>>year, when JL and I were on vacation, and others too, we didn't have a new
>>feature for 30 days!
>>
>>We can look at the types of stories we've given emphasis to, which we've
>>missed, and which we'd like to highlight in the months ahead. We can talk
>>about solutions for distributing the editorial work, generating more
>>features more regularly, and getting more folks involved.
>>
>>Personally, I think we ought to go out for beers and toast Jonathan for
>>his incredible work this past year .... writing 66 out of the year's 88
>>features (70%), in many cases helping others to put their features
>>together, and on the whole, having a great sense of which stories needed
>>to be featured.  I think he's a terrific editor and writer, and we've been
>>lucky to have him --  I don't know how much his new full-time job will
>>pull him away from seattle imc editorial work.
>>
>>As for meeting tonight -- perhaps we could do so informally, since it's
>>too late to convene a meeting.  There's a seattle-tech meeting tonight at
>>8:30
>>(http://lists.indymedia.org/mailman/public/seattletech/2002-November/00064
7.html
>>), and at one point or another, several editorial folks will be at the IMC
>>tonight.  Alternatively, we could actually convene an editorial collective
>>meeting for next Thursday (the 14th .... there'll be a Swarmcast meeting
>>at 8, with a potluck beforehand, but we could find a space to huddle and
>>meet).
>>
>>Regarding the current concern of how long a feature remains on top, I have
>>a couple of quick personal responses:
>>* i don't think it's desirable to have an across-the-board rule regarding
>>length of placement.
>>* on the whole, i think the site is better off, and more useful to our
>>readers, when features are being added regularly.  the more that features
>>remain static, the less frequently folks will want to turn to our site for
>>'news'.
>>* in many cases, as noted below, several features went up on the same day
>>-- due to a variety of reasons:  the ebb & flow of having no one writing
>>features for days on end, and then suddenly several people taking the
>>initiative at once; several events happening together at once; a large
>>event generating several related features at once
>>* features being in the # 2 and #3 slots -- not a terrible thing. it
>>doesn't take much scrolling ... people WILL scroll if they see that new
>>features have gone up, plus every feature is also highlighted on the
>>global indymedia site (on the features newswire).
>>* in this specific situation (re Burning Man vs. Jobs w/ Justice), I think
>>that our friends at JwJ, and other Bellingham activists, will be turning
>>to IMC to see what kind of coverage we have of their major victory --
>>where else would they go?  i think sometimes we can make editorial choices
>>about which news is 'bigger' or effecting the greatest number of people,
>>and choose story placement in relationship to that.  all that said -- i
>>think the Burning Man article is very cool. i just don't want to hang up
>>the JwJ story til Friday because of it.
>>
>>Thanks for your patience with a long email.  Enjoy the editorial review
>>below .... and congratulations to everyone for a great year of editorial
>>activity!!!!!
>>
>>love,
>>Susan
>>
>>SEATTLE IMC FEATURES INVENTORY -  November 2001 thru November 2002
>>--------------------------------------------------------------------------
--------------
>>* many headlines have been changed or paraphrased for easier recognition
>>in this list
>>
>>Nov 6 - Burning Man - analysis and local event announcement (Lance)
>>Oct 28 -' Pax Americana' & Anti-War Protests (Jonathan) - top story for 9
>>days
>>Oct 24 - FTAA  (Jonathan) - top story for 4 days
>>Oct 24 - Press Blackout on Anti-War Movement (Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>Oct 24 - FCC Approves LPFM for WA (Jonathan) - top story for hours/minutes
>>Oct 11 - US Troops, Out of the Phillipines Now! (Lance) - top story for 13
>>days
>>Oct 7 - 10,000 Protestors at Anti-War Rally & March  (Susan) - top story
>>for 6 days
>>Oct 6 - Anti-War Rally announcement (Susan) - top story for 1 day
>>Oct 5 - Nine Lives in Nine Years - NAACP march (Brandon) - top story for 1
>>day
>>Oct 5 - Media Blackout on Homelessness and Poverty (Lance) - top story for
>>hours
>>Oct 2 - McDermott Tours Iraq (Jonathan) - top story for 3 days
>>Sep 28 - Port Bosses Lock Out Longshoremen (Jonathan) - top story for 4
>>days
>>Sep 27 - Anti-War Activists Embrace Diverse Strategies (Susan) - top story
>>for 1 day
>>Sep 23 - Hate Free Zone Testimonials at Town Hall (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 4 days
>>Sep 19 - Hate Free Zone event announcement (Susan) - top story for 4 days
>>Sep 9 - Reclaim the Media pre-event coverage (Jonathan) - top story for 10
>>days
>>Sep 9 - Clear Channel's Broadcast Interference (Heather) - top story for
>>hours
>>Sep 1 - Reclaim the Media event announcement (Jonathan) - top story for 8
>>days
>>Sep 1 - Moquito Fleet announcement (Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>Sep 1 - Radical Art (at RTM) announcement (Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>Sep 1 - Labor Council Passes First Statewide Anti-War Resolution (Susan) -
>>top story for hours/minutes
>>Aug 30 - East Timor and the ICC (Jonathan) - top story for 2 days
>>Aug 22 - 'Urban Warrior' announcement (Jonathan) - top story for 8 days
>>Aug 19 - Rolling Thunder announcement (Jonathan) - top story for 3 days
>>Aug 16 - U.S. Relations with Zimbabwe (Lance) - top story for 3 days
>>Aug 14 - Media's Distortions Pave Way for War (Jonathan) - top story for 2
>>days
>>Aug 9 - Longshoremen Unite Against Gov't's Union-Busting Plans (Jonathan)
>>- top story for 5 days
>>Aug 8 - Black Community Activists (Garrett and Allah) Arrested (Jonathan)
>>- top story for 1 day
>>Aug 8 - Ujaama Detained Indefinitely (Susan & Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>Aug 7 - "The Buzz" Pressured to Clean Up Hate Speech (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 1 day
>>Aug 2 - "Democracy Now" Coming to KBCS and SCAN (Jonathan) - top story for
>>5 days
>>July 28 - 'Racist Scapegoating' at Sea-Tac (Jonathan) - top story for 5
>>days
>>July 26 - Free Speech and the Threat of Cable Monopolies (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 2 days
>>July 26 - Vandana Shiva in Seattle (Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>July 25 - Enron and India's Biggest Dam (Gentry) - top story for 1 day
>>July 19 - Activists Block Pipeline Drilling, Defend Forests (Susan) - top
>>story for 6 days
>>July 17 - Victory for Somali Grocers (Jonathan) - top story for 2 days
>>July 5 - "Seattle Crimes" Hits Streets, and PCJ's 'No Confidence' Vote
>>(Jonathan) - top story for 12 days
>>July 5 - Holes in the Social Service Safety Net (Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>June 28 - G-8 Protests in Calgary (Susan) - top story for 7 days
>>June 22 - City OK's AT&T Comcast Merger, Snubs Public Interest (Jonathan)
>>- top story for 6 days
>>June 16 - Greg Palast announcement (Jonathan) - top story for six days
>>June 14 - Local Anti-Sanctions Activist Fined $10,000 (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 2 days
>>June 12 - Madeline Albright to Deliver UW Commencement Speech (Lance) -
>>top story for 2 days
>>June 10 - G-8 in Canada pre-event coverage (Thatcher & Jonathan) - top
>>story for 2 days
>>June 10 - Unions Fight Corporate Media De-Regulation  (Jonathan) - top
>>story for hours
>>June 3 - Unions Rally Against Clear Channel's Anti-Labor Policies
>>(Jonathan) - top story for 7 days
>>May 23 - Activists Occupy Cantwell's Office Re Fast Track Vote (Jonathan)
>>- top story for 10 days
>>May 20 - Palestine Solidarity Activists Reportback (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 3 days
>>May 20 - Issues with Housing Projects in the Central Area & Downtown
>>(Jonathan) - top story for hours
>>May 20 - Immigrants Face Discrimination and State Terror, Post 9/11
>>(Lance) - top story for hours
>>May 14 - Shaping the Network Society event announcement (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 6 days
>>May 9 - Seattle Activist Enters 14th Day of Hunger Strike (Susan) - top
>>story for 5 days
>>May 4 - CARP Strangles Internet Radio in the U.S. (Jason) - top story for
>>5 days
>>April 28 - Seattle IMC Volunteer among activists at the Church of the
>>Nativity (Susan) - top story for 6 days
>>April 28 - U.S. Computer Recycling Creates Environmental Hazards in Asia
>>(Jonathan) - top story for hours/minutes
>>April 24 - April 20th Weekend of Activism (Lance) - top story for 4 days
>>April 12 - A20: A Day of Action pre-event coverage (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 12 days
>>April 12 - Other Weekend Events: Earth Day, Amnesty Int'l USA Conference
>>(Jonathan) - top story for hours/minutes
>>April 12 - SPD Pressures School, Church to Shut for April 20 (Jeremy) -
>>top story for hours
>>April 1 - War in Palestine: Indymedia Coverage (Jonathan) - top story for
>>11 days
>>April 1 - Who Will Police the Police? (Jonathan) - top story for
>>hours/minutes
>>March 23 - Media Democracy Events Broadcast Live From DC (Susan) - top
>>story for 9 days
>>March 21 - Seattle School Bus Drivers Try to Save Union Contract (Jill &
>>Jonathan) - top story for 2 days
>>March 18 - 400,000 protest "Europe of Capital" in Barcelona (Jonathan) -
>>top story for 3 days
>>March 16 - Qwest and Immunex: Local Enron Wannabes (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 2 days
>>March 14 - Activists Condemn US-backed Attacks on Palestinian Civilians
>>(Steve) - top story for 2 days
>>Feb 24 - WA State Anti-Terror Legislation (Melissa & Jonathan) - top story
>>for 18 days
>>Feb 23 - Secwepemc Elders and Activists fight Resort Expansion (Susan)  -
>>top story for 1 day
>>Feb 20 - IMC's Under Attack in Italy & Switzerland' (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 3 days
>>Feb 9 - Salt Lake City Olympics: Homelessness & State Repression
>>(Jonathan) - top story for 11 days
>>Feb 6 - Day of Solidarity with Leonard Peltier (Jonathan) - top story for
>>3 days
>>Jan 31 - WEF in NYC... WSF in Porto Alegre (Jonathan) - top story for 6
>>days
>>Jan 27 - Somalian Killed in Walla-Walla Prison Shooting (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 4 days
>>Jan 25 - "Alternative" Weekly Doesn't Worry, Stays Happy (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 2 days
>>Jan 22 - Anti-Terrorism Legislation Brews in Olympia (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 3 days
>>Jan 12 - Martin Luther King's Living Challenge (Jonathan) - top story for
>>10 days
>>Jan 11 - Public Space Activists on Trial in Bellingham (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 1 day
>>Dec 12 - Afghan Civilian Death Toll Surpasses Sept. 11 (Jonathan) - top
>>story for 30 DAYS!!
>>Dec 4 - Fast Track Scheduled For House Vote (Jonathan) - top story for 8
>>days
>>Nov 30 - A Peoples' Holiday: Global Resistance (Jonathan) - top story for
>>4 days
>>Nov 29 - Waging War Against Dissent (Jonathan) - top story for 1 day
>>Nov 26 - Voices of the Global South: Breaking Free From Debt (Jonathan) -
>>top story for 3 days
>>Nov 14 - Anti-War Solidarity Fast Begins in Seattle (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 12 days
>>Nov 11 - Bush Dragnet Targets Seattle's Somalian Community (Susan) - top
>>story for 3 days
>>Nov 8 - Criminal Justice Reform Summit, Nov. 10-11 (Jonathan) - top story
>>for 3 days
>>Nov 8 - WTO meets in Doha, Qatar (Jonathan) - top story for hours/minutes
>>Nov 6 - Killing Continues in Afghanistan as Anti-Bombing Activists Gather
>>Forces (John Yu)
>>
>>88 features in 365 days --- we're averaging a feature every 4 days.
>>
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