[Seattle-editorial] Re: [Imc-seattle-radio] modified radio button
proposal
vincent scotti eirene
notowar at telerama.com
Sat Oct 5 23:53:06 PDT 2002
hello,
we here at BLAST FURNACE RADIO have been running out station for 3 years
at 16k so dial up folk can get our station...if you run it thru yr stereo
system it sounds fine.
soon we will be adding a hi-fi/stereo stream for folk with a dsl line
yes, the web radio's are most important when you are serving up for folk
during various uprising. the latest mess with the shut-down-the-capital
broadcast shows we need to have de-centralized servers and daisy chain the
stations.=20
finally, we have been having more and more, remote live broadcast's and
recording sessions from various art / music / spoken word spaces via a
phone interface. this more than anything gets us our of the smelly
basement studio and has been a great form of outreach and service to the
community. we even have a 800 ph.# so we were able to record and broadcast
live from nyc during the 911 peace gathering...
http://notowar.com/AUDIO/020912_2_9-11-1.mp3
http://notowar.com/AUDIO/020912_2_9-11-2.mp3
http://notowar.com/AUDIO/020912_2_9-11-3.mp3
http://notowar.com/AUDIO/020912_2_9-11-4.mp3
fun, fun, fun, call anytime,
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vincent 1-888-NOTOWAR
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On Sat, 5 Oct 2002, nathaniel t wrote:
> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 13:47:12 -0700
> From: nathaniel t <vsea75 at hotmail.com>
> To: imc-seattle-radio at indymedia.org,
seattle-editorial at indymedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Imc-seattle-radio] modified radio button proposal
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> It's been brought up to me privately that 96K audio service might not be =
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> good use of our DSL line. That's certainly a reasonable opinion.
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> Anyone can check our total current stream load on one page at
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> http://www.shoutcast.com/?s=3Dindymedia
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> These things are easy to change. We could actually change the bandwidth=
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> menu every few minutes if we wanted to, but there would be no reason to d=
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> that.
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> I think it's a good idea to serve at 16K for people with 26.4 connections=
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> (which are actually very common), but 16K really sounds nasty, and I thin=
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> we should have a higher-quality option or options for listeners who would=
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> appreciate them.
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> What that option or options should be is a subject for discussion.
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> I'll be happy to help implement whatever y'all suggest.
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> Another option is putting the stream encoder DSP's and the DNAS applicati=
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> on different machines and co-locating the DNAS box at Speakeasy or Loudey=
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> or somewhere else where more bandwidth would be available. That way only=
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> one copy of each kind of stream would go through the DSL line. I persona=
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> think this would be a good idea.
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> For everyone's information, the fact is that we rarely have more than fou=
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> listeners at once. I suspect the streams have only been a significant=20
> resource load during Reclaim The Media. It would have been great to serv=
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> at 16K then, but I hadn't figured it out yet.
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> GLOSSARY:
> >DSP digital dignal processor
> > feeds one copy of a stream to a DNAS
> >DNAS distributed network audio server
> > sends N copies of a stream out to listeners
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> ----Original Message Follows----
> From: jonathan lawson <jonathan at indymedia.org>
> To: "nathaniel t" <vsea75 at hotmail.com>,imc-seattle-radio at indymedia.org,=
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> seattle-editorial at indymedia.org
> Subject: Re: [Imc-seattle-radio] modified radio button proposal
> Date: Sat, 05 Oct 2002 09:34:26 -0700
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> Hey.
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> Since there hasn't been an actual radio group for a while, Jason and I an=
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> sometimes others have been just kind of making decisions as to where thin=
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> point on the website, what the programming is, etc. It's great to have=20
> someone actively thinking about this stuff and I'm going to go ahead and=
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> make the change Nathaniel suggests. [as soon as Stallman is back up=20
> anyway--appears to be down]. I'm sure that post-RTM there will continue t=
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> be more interest in radio progamming--in fact it looks like there's a lit=
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> radio group forming who can continue to make decisions about progamming, =
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> and bandwidth of streams etc.
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> On a related note, at the last general meeting Brandon wisely brought up =
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> complicated topic of ad-hoc vs. process--could also be called autonomous =
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> collective, or "how do you decide what things at the IMC you have to just=
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> yourself, which things you can ask someone else to do and expect to get=
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> done, and which things are done only by the approval of working groups, t=
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> spokescouncil or at general meetings?" Editorial probably has a lot to sa=
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> about this since (1) we have a relatively clear working group charter and=
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> process for getting certain things done and (2) there are also things wit=
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> the editorial/tech continuum which get done more ad hoc--changing info on=
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> the sidebar has been an example.
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> I think this is on the agenda for the next general meeting, which I am no=
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> sure I'll be in town for. Maybe this group could kick some conversation=
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> about this onlist before then...
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> JL
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> At 11:40 PM 10/4/2002 -0700, nathaniel t wrote:
> >I propose to list three separate links immediately below the graphic but=
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> >on the Seattle indymedia website that says "Radio IMC." The specific te=
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> >I propose is as follows:
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> >bandwidth (bps):
> >16K | 40K | 96K
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> >The specific code I propose is listed below between the tags
> ><!-- *** PROPOSED NEW CODE STARTS HERE *** -->
> >and <!-- *** PROPOSED NEW CODE ENDS HERE *** -->
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> >I have included enough of the current web page code that you can clip th=
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> >following text, save it as whatever.html, open it with a browser, see wh=
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> >it looks like, and test the new part yourself. The audio connections ar=
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> >already implemented and have been tested to my satisfaction :-)
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