[Seattle-editorial] Proposal to hide

Jason Reep jasonr at speakeasy.net
Mon Apr 14 13:20:36 PDT 2003


ok, so the proposal is to establish a class of posts that we are going 
to henceforth and forthwith ban. and this class falls under the 
safe-space definition of the ed.policy? or is it more accurate to say 
that this proposal is a special circumstance more akin to the JC/Bobby 
decisions?  if it's the latter, then the precedent establshed before is 
to post the proposal (or at least a detailed explanation) to the 
community on the newswire. I'm not quite settled with the question that 
Jeremy raised:
"in past discussions we've found it difficult to word a policy that 
seems to be general enough to handle the cases we hate (like these 
schmucks) but still leaves room to allow "insurrectionary response", to 
use the term of art. "
and the clarification offered by Jonathan:
"...rather, we're deciding to hide a classification of posts."

It has in fact been easier to hide based on moniker rather than class of 
post.  I can't recall any cases where  we've acted on proposals to hide 
classes, even during times of newswire attack.

I'm not opposing but this is still not clear.

-Jason

Jeremy Kahn wrote:

> Jonathan Lawson wrote:
>
>> Clarification: the proposal is not to "ban" a particular user--we 
>> have no
>> mechanism for doing that--rather, we're deciding to hide a 
>> classification
>> of posts. In the unlikely event that "Jake the snake" posted  something
>> that didn't fit into the class defined below, it wouldn't be 
>> automatically
>> hideable according to this decision.
>>
> Correction accepted. I support the idea of banning this class of 
> posts. (banning by handle, even if we had the mechanism, would just 
> clue "Jake" in even earlier and encourage him to change handles 
> anyway.)  I still think my comments about ego are relevant here -- if 
> he changes handles and/or style sufficiently, then he's not going to 
> be The Troll he wants to be.
>
> --jeremy
>
>
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