[Seattle-editorial] (No Subject)

anarch3m anarch3m at lycos.com
Sat Aug 9 20:13:30 PDT 2003


This means us!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!We should vote what code to adopt.  We should do so pronto, before we hold the process up.

Media people, look at various sites and send some input about features that we as media makers want.

We can take up the graphics redesign which stalled 18 months ago.

walt
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Date:   Fri, 8 Aug 2003 15:01:28 -0400 
From:   Micah Anderson <micah at indymedia.org> [add to address book] [protect or block sender] 
Subject:   [IMC-Tech] draft letter to active sites on stallman 
To:   imc-tech at lists.indymedia.org 


We've been mulling this over informally in person at times, and at the
most recent meeting we decided to write a letter to all the IMCs on
stallman that are running active, urging them to switch to a different
code base, and offering them help to do so. We only want to contact
about 5 sites at a time, so that we don't get swamped and so that we
can do things in a managed way, streamlining processes as we go along.
Anyways, here is a draft letter, any changes?

Dear $IMC contact,

IMC-tech is contacting you because you have a site on the shared
server called stallman that is running very old IMC code, called
"Active". We are writing to you because we would like you to consider
switching to a more modern codebase.

The reasons why we would like you to switch are the following:

	. we cannot support Active code, nobody knows how to, and nobody
	  wants to
	  
	. the active code is not supported or being developed any more
	
    . we consider active to be a waste of resources (human, database,
	  disk)

	. the currently hosted sites on stallman all are various different
	  revisions of the Active code, unknown versions, half upgraded, etc.
	  which makes dealing with these sites a major pain
	  
    . most people think the other more modern code options are more 
	  visually appealing from the outset

 	. the more modern code options make administrative and technical tasks
	  far more easier and obvious: customizing the look and feel, dealing
	  with newswire spam, etc.

	. the newer code has many more delightful features, such as categories,
  	  templating, multilingual support, calendaring, searching,
	  syndication, most importat, they are being currently worked on
	  and supported!
	  
There are many other options to consider as alternatives to active,
please have a look at the following page to see the various options

available: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Devel/WebHome, also you can
see people's opinions and experiences with the different code bases

here: http://docs.indymedia.org/view/Devel/OpinonsExperiences.

Your site is hosted on stallman, and if you choose to remain there,
the code bases that you should consider are Mir, SF-active, or Dada,
these are the only ones that we have talked about supporting. We will
work with you to transfer your existing content to the new code, and
help you get everything up to how it was before without causing you
any significant down-time in the process. If you are interested in
moving off of stallman, there are some other options available that
can host sf-active, mir or dada. 

Please consider the options, discuss it with your local tech people
and your IMC and get back to us as soon as possible. Rest assured, we
*will* move all IMCs hosted on stallman off of old Active, so if
nobody from your IMC ever responds, at some point we will make a
choice for you. We cannot continue to have active sites on this
machine and continue to provide a service to people.

Thanks!
IMC-tech





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