[Seattle-editorial] Personality

[ma adili]

Friends, I've got to tell you I see a lot of the letter "I" in these 
posts. The collective have given you two a wonderful opportunity to 
assassinate one another's character in public (much as religion has 
been the enabler for three major to ignore the reason they each cherish 
Jerusalem and just resort to killing one another over it). The 
rightness of the thing you're defending does not make either of you 
right by association. No, it just makes that thing less right. Kinda' 
small-minded of both of you, to tell the truth.

Gentry, when you pinged the list last month to see who was still 
listening, I hit you right back asking what was up. Your response to me 
was:

There's scant few people actively doing much, and I was just wondering 
why there's like 70 people on the list, and like 2 of us that do all 
the writing/editing.

I don't make a habit of speaking for others, but purely from a personal 
perspective this response is exactly the reason why I don't do more, 
and won't until things sort themselves the f**k out over there. It's 
laudable that everyone has so much of themselves invested in IMC, but 
when it gets to the point of squabbling and self-aggrandizing personal 
ownership matters I back right up off of the thing. As long as any of 
us feels 'entitled,' it's not a collective: it's a clubhouse. Forgive 
me if I don't want to play.

ma adili

On Dec 5, 2003, at 11:59 AM, Gentry Lange wrote:

> In addition there's nothing in the definition of an "active editor" 
> that
> states anything about suggesting or posting articles.
>
> Gentry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> [mailto:seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf Of
> Gentry Lange
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:50 AM
> To: jonathan at indymedia.org; seattle-editorial at indymedia.org
> Subject: RE: [Seattle-editorial] Re: password
>
>
>> From the website:
>
> "Editor, active editor. A member of the editorial collective who has 
> gained
> the trust of other members by participating in editorial discussions, 
> by
> attending regular meetings, by internalizing the core values of 
> Seattle IMC
> editorial policy, and by committing himself or herself to those values 
> and
> to the health of the collective."
>
> Jason you have attended meetings recently. Jonathan has not. You can 
> call it
> BS if you want, but I did not write the policy. I just adhere to it, 
> without
> attempting to subvert it due to my own personal friendships and 
> alliances.
>
> Until Jonathan starts attending meetings again, he is not an active 
> member
> of the IMC according to the structure in place and online since I 
> started at
> the IMC.
>
> Gentry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> [mailto:seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf Of
> Jonathan Lawson
> Sent: Friday, December 05, 2003 11:27 AM
> To: seattle-editorial at indymedia.org
> Subject: [Seattle-editorial] Re: password
>
>
> I beg your pardon. I did leave editorial group for a spell, but have
> certainly been participating again. Three feature proposals last month,
> three this month. I'm sure you don't mean to challenge my member 
> status?
>
>>
>>
>> Correct me if I'm wrong, but Jonathan resigned from editorial. Why is 
>> he
> now
> again considered an active member? Has he attended meetings? Has he 
> been
> helping the collective?
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