[Seattle-editorial] Update1: Seattle Protest Story and Photos

Sat Feb 15 19:03:12 PST 2003

Here's my first update, better links, a bit clearer... Must run off to pick
up the film. Could someone post this please (as I still need to learn how
and the story has Susan and Jonathan's thumbs up)?

---Gentry

Title: Record Crowds Turn Out Around the World to Protest War
Subtitle: Seattle March Tops 50,000

<img
src="http://images.indymedia.org/imc/seattle/seattle2-15-03-thumb.jpg"
width="160" height="106">
Feb. 15, 2003, <a href="http://www.indymedia.org/"
target="_blank">millions
 around the world</a> join in international public outcry against the war.
An
 unprecedented day of global action, the people of the world have cleary
come
 out against the Bush Regime and the potential escalation of the War in
Iraq.
 <a href="http://uk.indymedia.org/" target="_blank">London</a>, <a
href="http://www.melbourne.indymedia.org/index.php"
target="_blank">Melbourne</a>,
 and many other cities around the world are reporting all-time record
crowds.

In Seattle, roughly 55,000+ people marched across downtown, from the
Seattle
 Center down 5th Ave, past the Federal Building with the march culminating
at
 the INS Building. Many elected officials turned out, including <a
href="http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/" target="_blank">Jim
 McDermott</a> (<a
href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/local/webcast/uploads/metafiles/saint_jim
.jpg" target="_blank">photo</a>).
 The march brought traffic to a standstill throughout downtown for about
two
 hours, and some frustrated drivers could be heard yelling the occasional
insults
 at the massive march splitting the city in two. However, most driver's
waited
 patiently for the crowd to pass, and many drivers had pre-made or hand
written
 signs displayed in support of the protest. 
The Seattle Police were out in force, and well stocked with pepper spray
and
 other<a
href="http://www.ci.seattle.wa.us/police/Publications/forg/community.htm"
target="_blank">
 "less leathal" weapons of mass repression</a>. The day went off without
many
 reported incidents or cases of protestors being arrested. However, <a
href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=22414&amp;group=web
cast">one
 possible arrest</a> was witnessed at 5th and Stewart.
While the major news media seems to be concentrating on the "No Blood for
Oil"
 message, there was an large contigency of "Impeach Bush" sloganeering
clearly
 visible throughout the day. Numbers are still coming in... Check other
Indymedia
 site's for more pictures and stories from around the world. And as always,
please
 <a href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/publish.php3">post your photos to
the
 newswire</a>.

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Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 18:42:15 -0800
To: <g at art13.com>, <seattle-editorial at lists.indymedia.org>
From: jonathan lawson <jonathan at indymedia.org>
Subject: Re: [Seattle-editorial] Seattle Protest Story and Photos

approve!

At 06:22 PM 2/15/2003 -0800, Gentry Lange wrote:
>Hi all, Gentry here, I think we need a story for the front page on today's
>Seattle march.
>I will have more pictures and links shortly, but let's get something up on
>the front page! I've thrown together the following draft:
>
>Title: Record Crowds Turn Out Around the World to Protest War
>Subtitle: Seattle Crowd tops 50,000
>
><p><img
>src=3D"http://images.indymedia.org/imc/seattle/seattle2-15-03-thumb.jpg"
>width=3D"160" height=3D"106"></p>
><p>Feb. 15, 2003, millions around the world join in international public
>outcry
>   against the war. An unprecedented day of global action, the people of=
 the
>world
>   have cleary come out against the Bush Regime and the potential=
 escalation
>of
>   the War in Iraq. London, Australia, Melbourne, and many other cities
>around
>   the world are reporting all-time record crowds. </p>
><p>In Seattle, roughly 55,000+ people marched across downtown, from the
>Seattle
>   Center down 5th Ave, past the Federal Building with the march=
 culminating
>at
>   the INS. Many elected officials turned out, including <a
>href=3D"http://www.house.gov/mcdermott/" target=3D"_blank">Jim
>   McDermott</a>. The march brought traffic to a standstill throughout
>downtown
>   for about two hours, and some frustrated drivers could be heard yelling
>the
>   occasional insults at the massive march splitting the city in two.
>However,
>   most driver's waited patiently for the crowd to pass, and many drivers=
 had
>pre-made
>   or hand written signs displayed in support of the protest. </p>
><p>The Seattle Police were out in force, and well stocked with pepper spray
>and
>   other<a
>href=3D"http://www.ci.seattle.wa.us/police/Publications/forg/community.htm"
>target=3D"_blank">
>   "less leathal" weapons of mass repression</a>. However, the day went off
>without
>   many reported incidents or cases of protestors being arrested,=
 harrassed,
>or
>   attacked by police. </p>
><p>While the major news media seems to be concentrating on the "No Blood=
 for
>Oil"
>   message, there was an large contigency of "Impeach Bush" sloganeering
>clearly
>   visible throughout the day. Numbers are still coming in here... Check
>other
>   Indymedia site's for more pictures and stories from around the world.=
 </p>
>
>
>
>
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>Message: 2
>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:42:16 -0800
>To: Seattle-Editorial <seattle-editorial at lists.indymedia.org>
>From: Sheri Herndon <sheri at indymedia.org>
>Subject: [Seattle-editorial] Fwd: IV> Protest stats
>
>--=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D_-1166773538=3D=3D_ma=3D=3D=3D=3D=3D=
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> >Delivered-To: sheri at speakeasy.org
> >Delivered-To: sheri at indymedia.org
> >From: "Rick Ingrasci M.D." <rick at bigmindmedia.com>
> >To: "Invitational" <invitational at bigmindmedia.com>,
> >       "Subscribers of soulducs" <soulducs at bigmindmedia.com>,
> >       "Subscribers of natcap" <natcap at bigmindmedia.com>,
> >       "Subscribers of shareholders" <shareholders at bigmindmedia.com>
> >Subject: IV> Protest stats
> >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:15:46 -0800
> >Reply-To: "Rick Ingrasci M.D." <rick at bigmindmedia.com>
> >List-Id: <invitational.bigmindmedia.com>
> >Organization: BigMindMedia
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> >
> >Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:38:06 -0800 (PST)
> >From: Marieke Van Coppenolle
><<mailto:marieke4u at yahoo.com>marieke4u at yahoo.com>
> >Subject: European protests underestimated in the US?
> >To: Tom Atlee <<mailto:cii at igc.org>cii at igc.org>
> >
> >Hi Tom,
> >
> >I just called a friend in Oregon. I came home from the demonstration
> >in Brussels, and asked him whether he had seen the news over there in
> >the US. "Millions of people have been demonstrating in Europe," I
> >told him enthousiastically. He said, "on the news they only mentioned
> >500,000 people protesting in Europe - the Bush administration
> >controls the news here." I said, "we should send out the right
> >numbers to American e-mail lists, then, so that the American
> >people know that WE DON'T WANT WAR..." He said that would be a good
> >idea.
> >
> >I immediately thought about you. Because I know you would be
> >interested anyway, as this is so strikingly about (the lack
> >of) democracy...
> >
> >So here are some more accurate numbers of European protests, as far
> >as I know by now. I took them from one of our most reliable
> >newspapers, "De Standaard"
>=

>(<<http://www.standaard.be/>www.standaard.be>http://www.standaard.be/>www.=
s
>tandaard.be,
> >only in Dutch
> >unfortunately).
> >
> >Brussels: officially: 42,000 (radio news: 50,000) - organizers: 80,000
> >London: officially: 500,000 - organizers: over 1 million
> >Glasgow, Belfast: thousands
> >Berlin: over 500,000
> >Frankfurt: 50,000
> >Paris: 100,000 (there were also American pacifists)
> >Also in other French cities, although it seemed there were not so
> >many people as in the other big European countries.
> >Athens: 200,000
> >Oslo: 60,000
> >Kopenhagen: 50,000
> >Amsterdam: 40,000
> >Stockholm: 30,000
> >Bern: 30,000
> >Helsinki: 12,000
> >
> >From our national radio news, 02/15 at 6 p.m.: Rome: 2,000,000 people
> >(!!) (the organizers had expected 500,000)
> >
> >Please, Tom, help tell the American people that their "official" news
> >is badly underestimating European protests! Find information at
> >independent news agencies and channels! This is really important - if
> >we take what they want us to believe, we are only coworkers in
> >bringing down our right for free speech and hence democracy...
> >
> >Marieke from Belgium
> >
> >To anyone who gets this message, please network it if you can!
> >
> >Marieke Van Coppenolle, IJzermaalberg 61, B-2550 Kontich, BELGIUM
> >Tel. +32-3-457.01.92
> >e-mail:
>=

><<mailto:marieke at motherearth.org>marieke at motherearth.org>mailto:marieke at mo=
t
>herearth.org>marieke at motherearth.org,
>=

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m
> >marieke4u at yahoo.com
> >check websites:
>=

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>g/>www.motherearth.org,
>=

><<http://www.nanish.org/>www.nanish.org>http://www.nanish.org/>www.nanish.=
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>rg
> >
> >_ _ _ _
> >Thousands Worldwide Protest War in Iraq
> >
> >By ROBERT BARR, Associated Press Writer
> >
> >LONDON - Millions of protesters - many of them marching in the
> >capitals of America's traditional allies - demonstrated Saturday
> >against U.S. plans to attack Iraq.
> >
> >In a global outpouring of anti-war sentiment, Rome claimed the
> >biggest turnout - 1 million according to police, while organizers
> >claimed three times that figure.
> >
> >In London, at least 750,000 people joined in the city's biggest
> >demonstration ever, police said. Berlin had up to half a million on
> >the streets, and Paris was estimated to have had up to 100,000.
> >
> >Peace activists hoped to draw 100,000 demonstrators in New York City
> >later for a protest near the United Nations
>=

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> >"Peace! Peace! Peace!" said Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa,
> >who led an ecumenical service near U.N. headquarters. "Let America
> >listen to the rest of the world - and the rest of the world is
> >saying, `Give the inspectors time.'"
> >
> >London's marchers hoped - in the words of keynote speaker Rev. Jesse
> >Jackson
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> >W.+Bush>web sites)'s staunchest European ally for his tough Iraq
> >policy.
> >
> >Rome protesters showed their disagreement with Prime Minister Silvio
> >Berlusconi's support for Bush, while demonstrators in Paris and
> >Berlin backed the skeptical stances of their governments.
> >
> >"What I would say to Mr. Blair is stop toadying up to the Americans
> >and listen to your own people, us, for once," said Elsie Hinks, 77,
> >who marched in London with her husband, Sidney, a retired Church of
> >England priest.
> >
> >"You don't fight terrorism with a preventive war," said Tommaso
> >Palladini, 56, who traveled from Milan to Rome. "You fight terrorism
> >by creating more justice in the world."
> >
> >Several dozen marchers from Genoa held up pictures of Iraqi artists.
> >"We're carrying these photos to show the other face of the Iraqi
> >people that the TV doesn't show," said Giovanna Marenzana, 38.
> >
> >Some leaders of German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's government took
> >part in the Berlin protest, which turned the tree-lined boulevard
> >between the Brandenburg Gate and the 19th-century Victory Column into
> >a sea of banners, balloons emblazoned with "No war in Iraq" and
> >demonstrators swaying to live music. Police estimated the crowd at
> >between 300,000 and 500,000.
> >
> >"We Germans in particular have a duty to do everything to ensure that
> >war - above all a war of aggression - never again becomes a
> >legitimate means of policy," shouted Friedrich Schorlemmer, a
> >Lutheran pastor and former East German pro-democracy activist.
> >
> >In the Paris crowd at the Place Denfert-Rochereau, a large American
> >flag bore the black inscription: "Leave us alone."
> >
> >Gerald Lenoir, 41, of Berkley, Calif., came to Paris specifically to
> >support the French demonstrators. "I am here to protest my
> >government's aggression against Iraq," he said. "Iraq does not pose a
> >security threat to the United States and there are no links with
> >al-Qaida."
> >
> >In southern France, about 10,000 people demonstrated in Toulouse
> >against the United States, chanting: "They bomb, they exploit, they
> >pollute, enough of this barbarity."
> >
> >Police estimated that 60,000 turned out in Oslo, Norway, 50,000 in
> >bitter cold in Brussels, while about 35,000 gathered peacefully in
> >frigid Stockholm.
> >
> >About 80,000 marched in Dublin, Irish police said. Crowds were
> >estimated at 60,000 in Seville, Spain; 40,000 in Bern, Switzerland;
> >30,000 in Glasgow, Scotland; 25,000 in Copenhagen; 15,000 in Vienna;
> >10,000 in Amsterdam; 5,000 in Cape Town and 4,000 in Johannesburg in
> >South Africa; 5,000 in Tokyo; and 2,000 in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
> >
> >"War is not a solution, war is a problem," Czech philosopher Erazim
> >Kohak told a crowd of about 500 in Prague.
> >
> >In Baghdad, tens of thousands of Iraqis, many carrying Kalashnikov
> >assault rifles, demonstrated to support Saddam Hussein
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> >
> >"Our swords are out of their sheaths, ready for battle," read one of
> >hundreds of banners carried by marchers along Palestine Street, a
> >broad Baghdad avenue.
> >
> >In Damascus, the capital of neighboring Syria, an estimated 200,000
> >protesters chanted anti-U.S. and anti-Israeli slogans as they marched
> >to the People's Assembly.
> >
> >Najjah Attar, a former Syrian cabinet minister, accused Washington of
> >attempting to change the region's map. "The U.S. wants to encroach
> >upon our own norms, concepts and principles," she said in Damascus.
> >"They are reminding us of the Nazi and fascist times."
> >
> >In Ukraine, some 2,000 people rallied in snowy Kiev's central square.
> >Anti-globalists led a peaceful "Rock Against War" protest joined by
> >communists, socialists, Kurds and pacifists.
> >
> >In the Bosnian city of Mostar, about 100 Muslims and Croats united
> >for an anti-war protest - the first such cross-community action in
> >seven years in a place where ethnic divisions remain tense, despite
> >the 1995 Bosnian peace agreement.
> >
> >"We want to say that war is evil and that we who survived one know
> >that better than anyone," said Majda Hadzic, 54.
> >
> >In divided Cyprus, about 500 Greeks and Turks braved heavy rain for a
> >march that briefly blocked a runway at a British air base.
> >
> >Several thousand protesters in Athens, Greece, unfurled a giant
> >banner across the wall of the Acropolis - "NATO
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> >  >web sites), U.S. and EU equals War" - before heading toward the U.S.
> >Embassy.
> >
> >U.S. Ambassador Thomas Miller said the Greek protesters' indignation
> >was misplaced. "They should be demonstrating outside the Iraqi
> >embassy," he said before the march.
> >
> >Police fired tear gas in clashes with several hundred anarchists
> >wearing hoods and crash helmets, who smashed store windows and threw
> >a gasoline bomb at a newspaper office. Thirteen youths were arrested,
> >while five policemen and two protesters were injured.
> >
> >In Moscow, 300 people marched to the U.S. Embassy, with one placard
> >urging Russian President Vladimir Putin
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> >Between 3,000 and 5,000 people marched through a suburb of Canberra,
> >the Australian capital, to protest government support for U.S.
> >policy. Australia has already committed 2,000 troops to the Persian
> >Gulf for possible action.
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>>Delivered-To: sheri at speakeasy.org
>>Delivered-To: sheri at indymedia.org
>>From: "Rick Ingrasci M.D." <rick at bigmindmedia.com>
>>To: "Invitational" <invitational at bigmindmedia.com>,
>>         "Subscribers of soulducs" <soulducs at bigmindmedia.com>,
>>         "Subscribers of natcap" <natcap at bigmindmedia.com>,
>>         "Subscribers of shareholders" <shareholders at bigmindmedia.com>
>>Subject: IV> Protest stats
>>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 14:15:46 -0800
>>Reply-To: "Rick Ingrasci M.D." <rick at bigmindmedia.com>
>>List-Id: <invitational.bigmindmedia.com>
>>Organization: BigMindMedia
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>>Date: Sat, 15 Feb 2003 12:38:06 -0800 (PST)
>>From: Marieke Van Coppenolle=20
>><<mailto:marieke4u at yahoo.com>marieke4u at yahoo.com>
>>Subject: European protests underestimated in the US?
>>To: Tom Atlee <<mailto:cii at igc.org>cii at igc.org>
>>
>>Hi Tom,
>>
>>I just called a friend in Oregon. I came home from the demonstration
>>in Brussels, and asked him whether he had seen the news over there in
>>the US. "Millions of people have been demonstrating in Europe," I
>>told him enthousiastically. He said, "on the news they only mentioned
>>500,000 people protesting in Europe - the Bush administration
>>controls the news here." I said, "we should send out the right
>>numbers to American e-mail lists, then, so that the American
>>people know that WE DON'T WANT WAR..." He said that would be a good
>>idea.
>>
>>I immediately thought about you. Because I know you would be
>>interested anyway, as this is so strikingly about (the lack
>>of) democracy...
>>
>>So here are some more accurate numbers of European protests, as far
>>as I know by now. I took them from one of our most reliable
>>newspapers, "De Standaard"
>>(<<http://www.standaard.be/>www.standaard.be>http://www.standaard.be/>www.
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>>only in Dutch
>>unfortunately).
>>
>>Brussels: officially: 42,000 (radio news: 50,000) - organizers: 80,000
>>London: officially: 500,000 - organizers: over 1 million
>>Glasgow, Belfast: thousands
>>Berlin: over 500,000
>>Frankfurt: 50,000
>>Paris: 100,000 (there were also American pacifists)
>>Also in other French cities, although it seemed there were not so
>>many people as in the other big European countries.
>>Athens: 200,000
>>Oslo: 60,000
>>Kopenhagen: 50,000
>>Amsterdam: 40,000
>>Stockholm: 30,000
>>Bern: 30,000
>>Helsinki: 12,000
>>
>> From our national radio news, 02/15 at 6 p.m.: Rome: 2,000,000 people
>>(!!) (the organizers had expected 500,000)
>>
>>Please, Tom, help tell the American people that their "official" news
>>is badly underestimating European protests! Find information at
>>independent news agencies and channels! This is really important - if
>>we take what they want us to believe, we are only coworkers in
>>bringing down our right for free speech and hence democracy...
>>
>>Marieke from Belgium
>>
>>To anyone who gets this message, please network it if you can!
>>
>>Marieke Van Coppenolle, IJzermaalberg 61, B-2550 Kontich, BELGIUM
>>Tel. +32-3-457.01.92
>>e-mail:=20
>><<mailto:marieke at motherearth.org>marieke at motherearth.org>mailto:marieke at mo
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therearth.org>marieke at motherearth.org,
>><mailto:marieke4u at yahoo.com>marieke4u at yahoo.com
>>check websites:=20
>><<http://www.motherearth.org/>www.motherearth.org>http://www.motherearth.o
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rg/>www.motherearth.org,
>><http://www.nanish.org/>www.nanish.org
>>
>>_ _ _ _
>>Thousands Worldwide Protest War in Iraq
>>
>>By ROBERT BARR, Associated Press Writer
>>
>>LONDON - Millions of protesters - many of them marching in the
>>capitals of America's traditional allies - demonstrated Saturday
>>against U.S. plans to attack Iraq.
>>
>>In a global outpouring of anti-war sentiment, Rome claimed the
>>biggest turnout - 1 million according to police, while organizers
>>claimed three times that figure.
>>
>>In London, at least 750,000 people joined in the city's biggest
>>demonstration ever, police said. Berlin had up to half a million on
>>the streets, and Paris was estimated to have had up to 100,000.
>>
>>Peace activists hoped to draw 100,000 demonstrators in New York City
>>later for a protest near the United Nations
>>(<<http://rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/inlinks/*http://rd.yaho>ht
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>>ed%20Nations>web sites).
>>
>>"Peace! Peace! Peace!" said Archbishop Desmond Tutu of South Africa,
>>who led an ecumenical service near U.N. headquarters. "Let America
>>listen to the rest of the world - and the rest of the world is
>>saying, `Give the inspectors time.'"
>>
>>London's marchers hoped - in the words of keynote speaker Rev. Jesse
>>Jackson
>>(<<http://rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/inlinks/*http://rd.yaho>ht
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>>ckson>web sites) - to "turn up the heat" on Prime Minister Tony Blair
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>>sites), who has been President Bush
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>>W.+Bush>web sites)'s staunchest European ally for his tough Iraq
>>policy.
>>
>>Rome protesters showed their disagreement with Prime Minister Silvio
>>Berlusconi's support for Bush, while demonstrators in Paris and
>>Berlin backed the skeptical stances of their governments.
>>
>>"What I would say to Mr. Blair is stop toadying up to the Americans
>>and listen to your own people, us, for once," said Elsie Hinks, 77,
>>who marched in London with her husband, Sidney, a retired Church of
>>England priest.
>>
>>"You don't fight terrorism with a preventive war," said Tommaso
>>Palladini, 56, who traveled from Milan to Rome. "You fight terrorism
>>by creating more justice in the world."
>>
>>Several dozen marchers from Genoa held up pictures of Iraqi artists.
>>"We're carrying these photos to show the other face of the Iraqi
>>people that the TV doesn't show," said Giovanna Marenzana, 38.
>>
>>Some leaders of German Chancellor Gerhard Schroeder's government took
>>part in the Berlin protest, which turned the tree-lined boulevard
>>between the Brandenburg Gate and the 19th-century Victory Column into
>>a sea of banners, balloons emblazoned with "No war in Iraq" and
>>demonstrators swaying to live music. Police estimated the crowd at
>>between 300,000 and 500,000.
>>
>>"We Germans in particular have a duty to do everything to ensure that
>>war - above all a war of aggression - never again becomes a
>>legitimate means of policy," shouted Friedrich Schorlemmer, a
>>Lutheran pastor and former East German pro-democracy activist.
>>
>>In the Paris crowd at the Place Denfert-Rochereau, a large American
>>flag bore the black inscription: "Leave us alone."
>>
>>Gerald Lenoir, 41, of Berkley, Calif., came to Paris specifically to
>>support the French demonstrators. "I am here to protest my
>>government's aggression against Iraq," he said. "Iraq does not pose a
>>security threat to the United States and there are no links with
>>al-Qaida."
>>
>>In southern France, about 10,000 people demonstrated in Toulouse
>>against the United States, chanting: "They bomb, they exploit, they
>>pollute, enough of this barbarity."
>>
>>Police estimated that 60,000 turned out in Oslo, Norway, 50,000 in
>>bitter cold in Brussels, while about 35,000 gathered peacefully in
>>frigid Stockholm.
>>
>>About 80,000 marched in Dublin, Irish police said. Crowds were
>>estimated at 60,000 in Seville, Spain; 40,000 in Bern, Switzerland;
>>30,000 in Glasgow, Scotland; 25,000 in Copenhagen; 15,000 in Vienna;
>>10,000 in Amsterdam; 5,000 in Cape Town and 4,000 in Johannesburg in
>>South Africa; 5,000 in Tokyo; and 2,000 in Dhaka, Bangladesh.
>>
>>"War is not a solution, war is a problem," Czech philosopher Erazim
>>Kohak told a crowd of about 500 in Prague.
>>
>>In Baghdad, tens of thousands of Iraqis, many carrying Kalashnikov
>>assault rifles, demonstrated to support Saddam Hussein
>>(<<http://rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/inlinks/*http://rd.yaho>ht
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>>.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?cs=3Dnw&p=3DSadd
>>am%20Hussein>web sites) and denounce the United States.
>>
>>"Our swords are out of their sheaths, ready for battle," read one of
>>hundreds of banners carried by marchers along Palestine Street, a
>>broad Baghdad avenue.
>>
>>In Damascus, the capital of neighboring Syria, an estimated 200,000
>>protesters chanted anti-U.S. and anti-Israeli slogans as they marched
>>to the People's Assembly.
>>
>>Najjah Attar, a former Syrian cabinet minister, accused Washington of
>>attempting to change the region's map. "The U.S. wants to encroach
>>upon our own norms, concepts and principles," she said in Damascus.
>>"They are reminding us of the Nazi and fascist times."
>>
>>In Ukraine, some 2,000 people rallied in snowy Kiev's central square.
>>Anti-globalists led a peaceful "Rock Against War" protest joined by
>>communists, socialists, Kurds and pacifists.
>>
>>In the Bosnian city of Mostar, about 100 Muslims and Croats united
>>for an anti-war protest - the first such cross-community action in
>>seven years in a place where ethnic divisions remain tense, despite
>>the 1995 Bosnian peace agreement.
>>
>>"We want to say that war is evil and that we who survived one know
>>that better than anyone," said Majda Hadzic, 54.
>>
>>In divided Cyprus, about 500 Greeks and Turks braved heavy rain for a
>>march that briefly blocked a runway at a British air base.
>>
>>Several thousand protesters in Athens, Greece, unfurled a giant
>>banner across the wall of the Acropolis - "NATO
>>(<<http://rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/inlinks/*http://rd.yaho>ht
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>>  >web sites), U.S. and EU equals War" - before heading toward the U.S.
>>Embassy.
>>
>>U.S. Ambassador Thomas Miller said the Greek protesters' indignation
>>was misplaced. "They should be demonstrating outside the Iraqi
>>embassy," he said before the march.
>>
>>Police fired tear gas in clashes with several hundred anarchists
>>wearing hoods and crash helmets, who smashed store windows and threw
>>a gasoline bomb at a newspaper office. Thirteen youths were arrested,
>>while five policemen and two protesters were injured.
>>
>>In Moscow, 300 people marched to the U.S. Embassy, with one placard
>>urging Russian President Vladimir Putin
>>(<<http://rd.yahoo.com/dailynews/ap/ap_on_re_eu/inlinks/*http://rd.yaho>ht
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>>.com/DailyNews/manual/*http://search.yahoo.com/bin/search?cs=3Dnw&p=3DVlad
>>imir%20Putin>web sites) to "be firmer with America."
>>
>>Between 3,000 and 5,000 people marched through a suburb of Canberra,
>>the Australian capital, to protest government support for U.S.
>>policy. Australia has already committed 2,000 troops to the Persian
>>Gulf for possible action.
>>
>>_ _ _ _
>>
>>For two more reports on the demonstrations, see
>><http://truthout.org/docs_02/021603A.htm>http://truthout.org/docs_02/02160
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3A.htm
>>
>>
>>________________________________
>>
>>Tom Atlee * The Co-Intelligence Institute * PO Box 493 * Eugene, OR 97440
>><http://www.co-intelligence.org>http://www.co-intelligence.org=20
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