[Seattle-editorial] stop this now! you are disrupting lists

Tue Nov 18 00:58:55 PST 2003

Hey Walt , we all have our side, but journalistically, your argument is not
supported by the harsh language, simple logic may explain your feelings, but
geez, it's your words that make a point, not the strength of the curses.

Gentry

-----Original Message-----
From: seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
[mailto:seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf Of Sheri
Herndon
Sent: Monday, November 17, 2003 11:00 PM
To: anarch3m at lycos.com
Cc: xmtr at riseup.net; seattle-editorial at indymedia.org;
all at lists.radiox.wirerimmed.com
Subject: [Seattle-editorial] stop this now! you are disrupting lists

hey,
to all people involved,
this is completely inappropriate behavior for this list
and because of it we are losing valuable people.
this is against any kind of list etiquette we have in this organization and
i for one do not want to be reading this kind of thing.
take if off line.
is there any possible reason for this to be on this list, really?
love
sheri

ps - apologies to all people who were on this list who are not interested in
dealing with this kind of thing.  i would say this is much more  about
interpersonal conflicts.

>JJ, as clear as possible
>
>FUCK YOU
>FUCK You NOW
>Fuck You tomorrow
>
>This time and in the future I will block any thing that has your name,
>your scent, your shaddow near it.
>
>As I should have when you came asking ti get a piece of the action in
>our space.
>
>Let me join the long list, including ?Mr Harrison.  Let me join Brian
>Allen and TecSpectre in saying get lost.
>
>walt
>--
>
>--------- Original Message ---------
>
>DATE: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:00:38
>From: xmtr at riseup.net
>To: seattle-editorial at indymedia.org
>Cc: all at lists.radiox.wirerimmed.com
>
>>
>>Dear Seattle Indymedia Collective, and Radio X folk:
>>
>>Things are, as you unfrotunately know, not in the best of
>circumstances.
>>A huge financial hardship presently exists for IndyMedia, as well as
>>misfeasance that may be criminally prosecutable.  Times are tuff @ the
>>IMC.
>>
>>Allthough relations between Radio X and Seattle IndyMedia have not
>always
>>been strong, the reality is that each organisation has benifited hugely
>>from the other org, even though that has not allway been clear to all
>>involved at every step of the way.
>>
>>In hard times like these, tempers flair, and infighting is an easy
>outlet
>>for frustrations that stem from the dire circumstances that are
>presently
>>being faced.  Becuase of the stress, somtimes simple mistakes with
>large
>>consequence are easily made.  This must be strongly resisted.
>>
>>The bigger picture that faces us all, and the reason why many of us got
>>involved in these endeavors in the first place, is the need at the
>local
>>and grassroots level for fledgling media organisations to find new and
>>posative ways to work together, and grow as a result.
>>
>>If this highly damaging blow to any working relations between Radio X
>and
>>Seattle Indymedia is to be repaired:
>>
>>PLEASE CONSIDER THIS A FORMAL REQUEST FOR:
>>
>>1)  Censure of Mr. Harrison by the Seattle Indymedia Collective for his
>>harsh words and actions in respect to Radio X in very clear terms.
>>
>>2)  Please remove Mr. Harrison from any responsibilty of conveying
>Seattle
>>Indymedia positions to Radio X.
>>
>>3)  Make it clear to Radio X, that Mr. Harrisons personal position in
>no
>>way reflects the broader feelings of the Seattle Indymedia Collective.
>>
>>4)  Additionally, Radio X deserves an appolgy either from Mr.Harrison,
>or
>>on his behalf by the Seattle IndyMedia Collective.
>>
>>
>>Our infighting will not help bring down the Rupurt Murdochs of this
>world.
>>These 4 requests are made such that Radio X and the Seattle Indymedia
>>group can pull togther rather than pull apart.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>Additionally, I strongly sugggest that for Mr. Harrison to become able
>to
>>contribute to the success of the Seattle chapter of IndyMedia, that he
>be
>>barred from having any responsibilities that relate to interacting with
>>outside orginsations in the future.  His gruff manner and cuastic,
>>anti-social modes of communication are frequently more damaging than
>>helpful.
>>
>>Months ago, Radio X stated clearly to the IMC that Mr. Rick Harrison
>was a
>>clear obstacle to the good relations between X/IMC that Radio X was
>>seeking. At that time Radio X demanded that another individual be the
>IMC
>>contact for Radio X.  Unfortunately, Mr. Harrison has a consistant
>record
>>of plowing forward in utter disregard to easily predictable
>consecuences.
>>Sadly, once again, this has been no exception.  To put it mildly, Rick
>>Harrison is extraordinarily non-diplomatic.  His damaging involvement
>at a
>>Radio X meeting has perhaps effectively terminated Radio X and Seattle
>>IndyMedia relations.
>>
>>If this is any example of the fruit Mr. Harrison's involvement with
>other
>>orgs can bear, one should strongly consider a new gardenor.
>>
>>
>>jonathan
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>in responce; Sheri Herndon
>>> i heard about this.
>>> i told him he shouldn't be the one to go to the meeting and this is
>why.
>>> he's trying to deal with this ctc situation in a good way and it's
>>> incredibly stressful for many of us right now.  and he told gentry
>that he
>>> thought he made things worse.  grrr.
>>> anyway, i dn't know what else to say.
>>> sheri
>>>
>>>>Today Big Loud Rick spent a good amount of time and energy ranting to
>>>>Barry
>>>>and me about how IMC money has supposedly been improperly spent on X
>>>>equipment, he's got receipts, some process wasn't followed, what a
>bunch
>>>>of
>>>>losers we are, etc. etc.  It doesn't seem to matter how many meetings
>we
>>>>have with this guy or how many times we answer his stupid questions.
>If
>>>>anybody at indymedia wants indymedia to continue some kind of
>connection
>>>>with Radio X, this is not how to go about it.
>>>>
>>>>----Original Message Follows----
>>>>From: BFGalbraith <bfgalbraith at yahoo.com>
>>>>Reply-To: bfgalbraith at users.sourceforge.net
>>>>To: all at lists.radiox.wirerimmed.com
>>>>CC: "Joseph\(IMC\)" <relayer at riseup.net>, "Judy\(IMC\)"
>>>><typist at speakeasy.net>,        "Wendy\(IMC\)"
>>>><shiningstar34 at hotmail.com>
>>>>Subject: [RadioX All] I may have misinformed you
>>>>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:00:08 -0800 (PST)
>>>>
>>>>RadioX,
>>>>
>>>>I told one of your people yesterday that I thought
>>>>they should get their equipment out of the space by
>>>>the end of November if they did not want LIHI to
>>>>donate it too good will.
>>>>
>>>>I am easily excitable and usually pessimistic, AND I
>>>>am NOT taking part in the discussion about what is
>>>>being done about the Seattle IMC's financial issues
>>>>(information I get is usually a few days old.)  Wendy
>>>>brought to my attention today that this can't-do
>>>>attitude may be doing more harm than good.  I have to
>>>>at least agree that I wouldn't be one to know when you
>>>>should move, or even if it would be in your best
>>>>interests to part with the Seattle IMC when the move
>>>>occurs.
>>>>
>>>>Sorry for the drama,
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>=====
>>>>-Benjamin
>>>>
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