[Seattle-editorial] Re: stop this now! you are disrupting lists

Tue Nov 18 16:18:35 PST 2003

I stand by my feelings.  I will not abuse the readers of these lists farther, now that my position is CRYSTAL CLEAR!
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DATE: Mon, 17 Nov 2003 23:00:29
From: Sheri Herndon <sheri at speakeasy.org>
To: anarch3m at lycos.com
Cc: seattle-editorial at indymedia.org, xmtr at riseup.net, all at lists.radiox.wirerimmed.com

>hey,
>to all people involved,
>this is completely inappropriate behavior for this list
>and because of it we are losing valuable people.
>this is against any kind of list etiquette we have in this organization and i for one do not want to be reading this kind of thing.
>take if off line.
>is there any possible reason for this to be on this list, really?
>love
>sheri
>
>ps - apologies to all people who were on this list who are not interested in dealing with this kind of thing.  i would say this is much more  about interpersonal conflicts.  
>
>>JJ, as clear as possible
>>
>>FUCK YOU 
>>FUCK You NOW
>>Fuck You tomorrow
>>
>>This time and in the future I will block any thing that has your name, 
>>your scent, your shaddow near it.
>>
>>As I should have when you came asking ti get a piece of the action in 
>>our space.
>>
>>Let me join the long list, including ?Mr Harrison.  Let me join Brian 
>>Allen and TecSpectre in saying get lost.
>>
>>walt
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>>--------- Original Message ---------
>>
>>DATE: Sat, 15 Nov 2003 12:00:38
>>From: xmtr at riseup.net
>>To: seattle-editorial at indymedia.org
>>Cc: all at lists.radiox.wirerimmed.com
>>
>>>
>>>Dear Seattle Indymedia Collective, and Radio X folk:
>>>
>>>Things are, as you unfrotunately know, not in the best of 
>>circumstances. 
>>>A huge financial hardship presently exists for IndyMedia, as well as
>>>misfeasance that may be criminally prosecutable.  Times are tuff @ the
>>>IMC.
>>>
>>>Allthough relations between Radio X and Seattle IndyMedia have not 
>>always
>>>been strong, the reality is that each organisation has benifited hugely
>>>from the other org, even though that has not allway been clear to all
>>>involved at every step of the way.
>>>
>>>In hard times like these, tempers flair, and infighting is an easy 
>>outlet
>>>for frustrations that stem from the dire circumstances that are 
>>presently
>>>being faced.  Becuase of the stress, somtimes simple mistakes with 
>>large
>>>consequence are easily made.  This must be strongly resisted.
>>>
>>>The bigger picture that faces us all, and the reason why many of us got
>>>involved in these endeavors in the first place, is the need at the 
>>local
>>>and grassroots level for fledgling media organisations to find new and
>>>posative ways to work together, and grow as a result.
>>>
>>>If this highly damaging blow to any working relations between Radio X 
>>and
>>>Seattle Indymedia is to be repaired:
>>>
>>>PLEASE CONSIDER THIS A FORMAL REQUEST FOR:
>>>
>>>1)  Censure of Mr. Harrison by the Seattle Indymedia Collective for his
>>>harsh words and actions in respect to Radio X in very clear terms.
>>>
>>>2)  Please remove Mr. Harrison from any responsibilty of conveying 
>>Seattle
>>>Indymedia positions to Radio X.
>>>
>>>3)  Make it clear to Radio X, that Mr. Harrisons personal position in 
>>no
>>>way reflects the broader feelings of the Seattle Indymedia Collective.
>>>
>>>4)  Additionally, Radio X deserves an appolgy either from Mr.Harrison, 
>>or
>>>on his behalf by the Seattle IndyMedia Collective.
>>>
>>>
>>>Our infighting will not help bring down the Rupurt Murdochs of this 
>>world.
>>>These 4 requests are made such that Radio X and the Seattle Indymedia
>>>group can pull togther rather than pull apart.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>Additionally, I strongly sugggest that for Mr. Harrison to become able 
>>to
>>>contribute to the success of the Seattle chapter of IndyMedia, that he 
>>be
>>>barred from having any responsibilities that relate to interacting with
>>>outside orginsations in the future.  His gruff manner and cuastic,
>>>anti-social modes of communication are frequently more damaging than
>>>helpful.
>>>
>>>Months ago, Radio X stated clearly to the IMC that Mr. Rick Harrison 
>>was a
>>>clear obstacle to the good relations between X/IMC that Radio X was
>>>seeking. At that time Radio X demanded that another individual be the 
>>IMC
>>>contact for Radio X.  Unfortunately, Mr. Harrison has a consistant 
>>record
>>>of plowing forward in utter disregard to easily predictable 
>>consecuences. 
>>>Sadly, once again, this has been no exception.  To put it mildly, Rick
>>>Harrison is extraordinarily non-diplomatic.  His damaging involvement 
>>at a
>>>Radio X meeting has perhaps effectively terminated Radio X and Seattle
>>>IndyMedia relations.
>>>
>>>If this is any example of the fruit Mr. Harrison's involvement with 
>>other
>>>orgs can bear, one should strongly consider a new gardenor.
>>>
>>>
>>>jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>in responce; Sheri Herndon
>>>> i heard about this.
>>>> i told him he shouldn't be the one to go to the meeting and this is 
>>why.
>>>> he's trying to deal with this ctc situation in a good way and it's
>>>> incredibly stressful for many of us right now.  and he told gentry 
>>that he
>>>> thought he made things worse.  grrr.
>>>> anyway, i dn't know what else to say.
>>>> sheri
>>>>
>>>>>Today Big Loud Rick spent a good amount of time and energy ranting to
>>>>>Barry
>>>>>and me about how IMC money has supposedly been improperly spent on X
>>>>>equipment, he's got receipts, some process wasn't followed, what a 
>>bunch
>>>>>of
>>>>>losers we are, etc. etc.  It doesn't seem to matter how many meetings 
>>we
>>>>>have with this guy or how many times we answer his stupid questions.  
>>If
>>>>>anybody at indymedia wants indymedia to continue some kind of 
>>connection
>>>>>with Radio X, this is not how to go about it.
>>>>>
>>>>>----Original Message Follows----
>>>>>From: BFGalbraith <bfgalbraith at yahoo.com>
>>>>>Reply-To: bfgalbraith at users.sourceforge.net
>>>>>To: all at lists.radiox.wirerimmed.com
>>>>>CC: "Joseph\(IMC\)" <relayer at riseup.net>, "Judy\(IMC\)"
>>>>><typist at speakeasy.net>,        "Wendy\(IMC\)"
>>>>><shiningstar34 at hotmail.com>
>>>>>Subject: [RadioX All] I may have misinformed you
>>>>>Date: Tue, 11 Nov 2003 22:00:08 -0800 (PST)
>>>>>
>>>>>RadioX,
>>>>>
>>>>>I told one of your people yesterday that I thought
>>>>>they should get their equipment out of the space by
>>>>>the end of November if they did not want LIHI to
>>>>>donate it too good will.
>>>>>
>>>>>I am easily excitable and usually pessimistic, AND I
>>>>>am NOT taking part in the discussion about what is
>>>>>being done about the Seattle IMC's financial issues
>>>>>(information I get is usually a few days old.)  Wendy
>>>>>brought to my attention today that this can't-do
>>>>>attitude may be doing more harm than good.  I have to
>>>>>at least agree that I wouldn't be one to know when you
>>>>>should move, or even if it would be in your best
>>>>>interests to part with the Seattle IMC when the move
>>>>>occurs.
>>>>>
>>>>>Sorry for the drama,
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>=====
>>>>>-Benjamin
>>>>>
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