[Seattle-editorial] Newswire Editing

[Gentry Lange]

I'm think that the policy as it stands is not clear... and no one seems to
answer my questions qhen I ask them.

For instance, what are Zero content posts? Are these blank posts or are they
completely empty? What about people who spam the entire IMC network... this
is "Zero" content to me, and the few other people that come to meetings
lately seem to hate this crap too. But I don't know if it qualifies as a
Zero content post, or anything else.

Second question.. providing "safe space" for unmoderated open-publiching,
well what's constitutes a violation of this policy? If threatening language,
Fuck you, I hope you die, this kind of thing, happens all the time, but no
one stops it?

I respect your background with the IMC, but as the newswire is in a current
state of Palestine/Israel arguments, with a lot of crap comments that aren't
useful to anyone, and very little news of Seattle, with only two (Jason, and
Jeremy) longer term editors, only occasionally chiming in to say what used
to go on... and only occasionally if at all attending meetings. Then I have
to say this old policy is not working.

I don't know how much you read the newswire lately Jason, but it's being hit
constantly by the likes of the following:

"Killing Jews is Good"
"Puget Sound Patriot"
"Analog Kid"

And others. And if these are the kind of people that hit the newswire the
most, and we are going to allow it... Then frankly, I'm not going to be a
part of that we.

I'm for making the newswire useful to the progressive community, not
creating a open-publishing forum for people to piss on. The old rules
frankly allow people to piss all over the newsire, and as the most active
member of the editorial currently, I'm sick of people pissing on the
newswire. So is everyone who comes to meetings.

Arguing that the old way works is something I will argue against. Because
well the old way seems not to be happening if it used to work.

So what's the priority, open-publishing for everyone to piss on, or forum
for NEWS about Seattle?

Gentry




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I will be necessarily critical of radical policy changes.  I would again
like to re-iterate that the policy as it stands allows for the
aggressive hiding that seems to be in vogue right now.  I feel a
slippery slope coming on but I'm not going to object to the sincere
efforts to clean up the tone of the newswire.  As far as changing the
policy, I'd ask for people to be very careful.  This is something that's
at the core of what makes the IMC the IMC, all the bullshit politics
about the space aside.

Am I protective of the policy as is? Yes.  I was there when it written.
  I helped.  So take that as a bias if you want.  But, if you read it
and think about it, I think that you'll understand that it's very
flexible and strong.

What has the policy stopped the editors from doing that makes it so
important to change it?

-Jason

Gentry Lange wrote:
> Hey everyone... I don't have the time or patience to fight the newswire
crap
> all by myself. So until I have 2 other people commit to vigilante action
on
> a daily basis, I am going to postpone doing anything to the wire.
>
> My thought is that we need first, more volunteer editors, and 2nd a new
> policy. Until then I repeat, I will not be the only one doing this.
>
>
> Gentry
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