[Seattle-editorial] Newswire Editing

[typist at speakeasy.net]

For focus and for sake of honing an editorial policy:  a local Seattle/Washington/Cascadia news emphasis only might be good.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gentry Lange [mailto:g at art13.com]
> Sent: Thursday, October 9, 2003 04:37 PM
> To: 'Jason Reep', 'Editorial'
> Subject: RE: [Seattle-editorial] Newswire Editing
> 
> I'm think that the policy as it stands is not clear... and no one seems to
> answer my questions qhen I ask them.
> 
> For instance, what are Zero content posts? Are these blank posts or are they
> completely empty? What about people who spam the entire IMC network... this
> is "Zero" content to me, and the few other people that come to meetings
> lately seem to hate this crap too. But I don't know if it qualifies as a
> Zero content post, or anything else.
> 
> Second question.. providing "safe space" for unmoderated open-publiching,
> well what's constitutes a violation of this policy? If threatening language,
> Fuck you, I hope you die, this kind of thing, happens all the time, but no
> one stops it?
> 
> I respect your background with the IMC, but as the newswire is in a current
> state of Palestine/Israel arguments, with a lot of crap comments that aren't
> useful to anyone, and very little news of Seattle, with only two (Jason, and
> Jeremy) longer term editors, only occasionally chiming in to say what used
> to go on... and only occasionally if at all attending meetings. Then I have
> to say this old policy is not working.
> 
> I don't know how much you read the newswire lately Jason, but it's being hit
> constantly by the likes of the following:
> 
> "Killing Jews is Good"
> "Puget Sound Patriot"
> "Analog Kid"
> 
> And others. And if these are the kind of people that hit the newswire the
> most, and we are going to allow it... Then frankly, I'm not going to be a
> part of that we.
> 
> I'm for making the newswire useful to the progressive community, not
> creating a open-publishing forum for people to piss on. The old rules
> frankly allow people to piss all over the newsire, and as the most active
> member of the editorial currently, I'm sick of people pissing on the
> newswire. So is everyone who comes to meetings.
> 
> Arguing that the old way works is something I will argue against. Because
> well the old way seems not to be happening if it used to work.
> 
> So what's the priority, open-publishing for everyone to piss on, or forum
> for NEWS about Seattle?
> 
> Gentry
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org
> [mailto:seattle-editorial-bounces at lists.indymedia.org]On Behalf Of Jason
> Reep
> Sent: Thursday, October 09, 2003 8:44 AM
> To: Editorial
> Subject: Re: [Seattle-editorial] Newswire Editing
> 
> 
> I will be necessarily critical of radical policy changes.  I would again
> like to re-iterate that the policy as it stands allows for the
> aggressive hiding that seems to be in vogue right now.  I feel a
> slippery slope coming on but I'm not going to object to the sincere
> efforts to clean up the tone of the newswire.  As far as changing the
> policy, I'd ask for people to be very careful.  This is something that's
> at the core of what makes the IMC the IMC, all the bullshit politics
> about the space aside.
> 
> Am I protective of the policy as is? Yes.  I was there when it written.
>   I helped.  So take that as a bias if you want.  But, if you read it
> and think about it, I think that you'll understand that it's very
> flexible and strong.
> 
> What has the policy stopped the editors from doing that makes it so
> important to change it?
> 
> -Jason
> 
> Gentry Lange wrote:
> > Hey everyone... I don't have the time or patience to fight the newswire
> crap
> > all by myself. So until I have 2 other people commit to vigilante action
> on
> > a daily basis, I am going to postpone doing anything to the wire.
> >
> > My thought is that we need first, more volunteer editors, and 2nd a new
> > policy. Until then I repeat, I will not be the only one doing this.
> >
> >
> > Gentry
> >
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