[Seattle-editorial] FP: Nazis, nature, nuture

Thu Sep 18 11:37:42 PDT 2003

Here's an alternative to so called erasing--rename the "hidden" policy,
calling it moderated and unmoderated, and add a link to the newswire that
allows newswire readers to choose.

Technically, this shouldn't be impossible... even with no knowledge of the
codebase, it's wouldn't actually be doing anything but adding a link to the
frontpage that took a person to the same page as the "hidden article" page
which the administration page takes us to.

This fix/proposal would allow us to moderate the newswire, but would also
preserve totally unmoderated free speech section.

I would still want to run the article, then explain a new policy in terms of
these postings to the general audience.  I think activists need to read
these articles and know what's going on. I also think it is news, due to the
amount on our wire, and regardless of the author's intent or gain of
particular links, we shouldn't hide crap like this, we should turn the
lights on and make people aware of things.

Gentry

-----Original Message-----
From: typist at speakeasy.net [mailto:typist at speakeasy.net]
Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 10:19 AM
To: g at art13.com; typist at speakeasy.net; Editorial
Subject: Re: [Seattle-editorial] FP: Nazis, nature, nuture

Actually, I'm more in favor of erasing these posts than featuring them.
Those writers getting more attention would love that, love it!  This nazi
environmentalist nonsense is detracting from more important work.  I propose
that the editorial collective agree that they are a waste of our time and
web space and discourage their further posting by removing them.  Please.
They are creating an "unsafe" environment for the community and need to go
on those grounds.  Erase them Gentry I say erase them, they're just crap and
we need to get on with real community building. As a collective we can agree
that more agressive editing of the newswire needs to happen to make it a
functional community resource.  Folks, can we take this action?

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Gentry Lange [mailto:g at art13.com]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 05:07 PM
> To: typist at speakeasy.net, 'Editorial'
> Subject: RE: [Seattle-editorial] FP: Nazis, nature, nuture
>
> Why not? Really, I think getting people involved through controversy is a
> good thing. As you probably know I would be the first one to just erase
> these posts, but lacking that I think acknowledging that our newswire is
> being overrun and then calling for volunteers could be useful.
>
> Anyway, I won't be back at my computer until this evening, so I hope
others
> in the Collective will ad their 2 cents. But really, calling attention to
> this one of the point of the article.
>
> Gentry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: typist at speakeasy.net [mailto:typist at speakeasy.net]
> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 9:50 AM
> To: g at art13.com; Editorial
> Subject: Re: [Seattle-editorial] FP: Nazis, nature, nuture
>
>
> I'm not so sure we want to call any more attention to these folks by
> featuring them.
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Gentry Lange [mailto:g at art13.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2003 04:04 AM
> > To: 'Editorial'
> > Subject: [Seattle-editorial] FP: Nazis, nature, nuture
> >
> > This proposal is a little wacky. Check the links before you approve,
cause
> > I've linked to stuff that's annoying me on the newswire as I want people
> to
> > take a minute to see what's going on, and call for help simultaneously.
> >
> > As usual here's the working version with links:
> > http://www.art13.com/gentry/rants/nazis.htm
> >
> > Gentry
> >
> >
>
____________________________________________________________________________
> > _____________
> >
> > Title: Nazis, Nature, Nurture
> >
> > Subtitle: Call for Editorial Volunteers
> >
> > What's this about calling everyone Nazi's? Environmental Nazi's? The
Bush
> > Administration? Is everyone a Nazi? Is this just some new bait tactic?
> >
> > The Left and the Right, it seems everyone these days is calling each
other
> > Nazi. The Nazis put people in ovens and made lampshades out of human
skin.
> > While the US invades countries for resources, in order to subjugate the
> > people to the American Corporate Government's political will, and in
order
> > to exploit cheap labor. Is this behavior really analogous?
> >
> > Read More about this wacky anti-Environmentalist movement here at
> > Christianity.com
> >
> > Want to help make the Seattle Indymedia newswire useful? Volunteer for
the
> > Seattle Editorial Collective by emailing us
> > (seattle-editorial at lists.indymedia.org). Or come to the weekly editorial
> > meeting, 1415 3rd Ave 6-6:30pm every Tuesday until further notice.
> >
> >
>
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> > ____________
> >
> > <p><img src="http://portland.indymedia.org/icon/2003/07/267612.jpg"></p>
> > <p>Title: Nazis, Nature, Nurture</p>
> > <p>Subtitle: Call for Editorial Volunteers</p>
> > <p>What's this about <a
> > href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=33086">calling
> >   everyone Nazi's</a>? <a
> >
>
href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=33069&amp;group=web
> > cast">Environmental
> >   Nazi's</a>? The <a
> > href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=32700">Bush
> >   Administration</a>? Is <a
> > href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=32778">everyone
> >   a Nazi</a>? Is this just some new bait tactic? </p>
> > <p>The <a
> href="http://portland.indymedia.org/en/2003/07/267613.shtml">Left
> > and
> >   the Right</a>, it seems <a
> > href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/front.php3?article_id=32385">everyone
> >   these days is calling each other Nazi</a>. The Nazis put people in
ovens
> > and
> >   made lampshades out of human skin. While the US invades countries for
> > resources,
> >   in order to subjugate the people to the American Corporate
Government's
> > political
> >   will, and in order to exploit cheap labor. Is this behavior really
> > analogous?</p>
> > <p>Read More about this wacky anti-Environmentalist movement <a
> > href="http://home.christianity.com/ministries/aig/52413.html">here</a>
> >   at Christianity.com</p>
> > <p>Want to help make the Seattle Indymedia newswire useful? Volunteer
for
> > the<a href="http://seattle.indymedia.org/policy.php3">
> >   Seattle Editorial Collective</a> by emailing us (<a
> >
>
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> > indymedia.org</a>).</p>
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