[Seattle-editorial] Re: legendary writers Laury and Joseph take over site, "wingnut" writer Kirsten leaves

[Joseph Eisenschmidt]

Kirsten,

Don't let the door hit you on the ass. 

I've deleted your contact information from my address book, and
would ask that you send me no more e-mail, or only one more at most
to be fair. 

I will delete that before reading it, as I did your last e-mail.
I'll not initiate communications with you, nor respond to you in the
future.

Joseph


Quoting sheelanagig at juno.com:

> To Seattle IMC, Laury Joseph -
> 
> Okay, I will have to pull out now. I give up. I now join most of
> the
> other professional writers in town. I want NOTHING to do with
> Seattle's
> IMC. As I said, your site is embarrasing to be associated with, I
> tried
> to HELP YOU, but now your own editorial is calling me names? YOU
> DRIVE
> OFF ANYONE WHO WOULD BETTER THE SITE, DON'T YOU?! And acting as
> if you
> publishing me is charity to me is foul, as you have in this
> email
> "Kirsten is a good writer, but a wingnut, and she has an
> uncompromising
> opinion on how we, and others appearently, should help her."
> (note: at
> least I can spell, editors!) is intolerable. Our relationship is
> over. I
> will not respond to any more of your emails. I have better things
> to do
> with my time. Take me off your lists. I will not post to your
> crappy
> newswire or tip you off to any good stories I write, from now on
> let
> Joseph and Laury write this site. I did MORE than my part now to
> try to
> give you quality substance, and all you do is complain I will not
> go to
> your meetings. I am doing enough by handfeeding you wellwritten
> articles
> (which is more than most do) and I do not have to give them to
> you at
> all! Most writers I know of worth in town will not touch you. I
> did. To
> try to help, to try to bring it back up to a standard, but you
> just do
> not get it. And I am NOT explaining it to you anymore. Call me a
> wingnut
> or whatever, write your own fucking IMC features. For a "wingnut"
> I sure
> seem coherent in print. Your site has been sucking now for how
> many
> months!? You have run the first IMC INTO the GROUND! Don't take
> me down
> with you! Yeah, keep resisting help, that will heal it...Fuck it.
> I am
> outta here. As I said, I never ever needed your IMC in any way. I
> offered
> help. Period. This incident is a perfect example. A timely
> Seattlebased
> story lands cover story on INfoshop but not here. Lands on PDX
> and is
> commented on there cuz Seattle IMC does things like this. 
> 
> Calling authors "wingnuts" is not going to endear them to you.
> Look at
> your site. IT IS THE WORST IN THE WHOLE GODDAMNED IMC SYSTEM and
> you go
> around saying things like "While She is a good writer, we can't
> allow
> ourselves to be bent by her needs any more than by anyone elses.
> By her
> own admission, we don't work well together, and are not natural
> allies
> therefore. We did begin to publish almost all of her submissions
> for a
> while, as she was one of the few contributors of local, original
> work.
> That was perhaps an error on our part."
> 
> NO, the error was on MY part for GIVING YOU MY WRITING WHICH YOU
> CLEARLY
> NEVER DESERVED! 
> 
> Joseph writes - "I post to the newswire and only advance my best
> stuff to
> the center
>  column. She has been invited to participate more, but wishes to
> write
> exclusively. If I can do some of the work around here, and treat
> my self
> only ocasionally, she can wait in line too.
> Thanks for the great work your doing laury, Joseph"
> 
> Well, good, you two can write all the features now. I have more
> than
> enough other places to publish. Good work Laury and Joseph! Start
> putting
> out! Like I did, constantly and consistently with local stories
> and
> quality writing...glad you weeded the garden so you can write
> these
> fabulous stories now, since I was cluttering up your site with
> local
> articles that also went national, apparently hogging a
> spotlight...Do not
> "help" me by publishing me anymore! Do not pity me any longer and
> burst
> out with your writing careers I was somehow holding back!
> 
> Between the name calling on your site, the name calling when a
> writer
> tries to submit an article, as in the email from laury below, and
> then
> the subsequent name calling by editors, as Joseph just did, is
> enough
> now. I AM OUTTA HERE. I want nothing to do with Seattle's IMC, at
> this
> point. And are you the same Joseph that NION kicked out over that
> ugly
> controversy we do not want to bring up? If so, calling me a
> wingnut is
> pretty wild...name calling by editors at all, upon writers is
> ridiculous.
> This is the ONLY outfit that does it, and I work with many many
> editors.
> Therefore, this is the ONLY IMC that I do not want to work with.
> And you
> know why. The same reason all the other good writers have left.
> You have
> heard it before. Several of us have even talked about appealing
> to the
> IMC and asking for a new site, like "Puget Sound IMC" to get an
> actual
> functioning IMC site going here since whoever is running Seattle
> IMC is
> obviously running it into the ground....
> 
> And here is what Laury sent Joseph since you missed it....
> 
> "I would reject this as an editorial.  A cop wouldn't give his
> name --  
> however, the Kirsten got the name anyway.  BFD.
> 
> What is the takeaway on this article?  Memorize cop faces???? The
>  
> article doesn't prove a conspiracy -- just the behavior of one 
> 
> (cranky?) cop.
> 
> For an editorial entitled "Seattle Police Breaking Law", I'd like
> to  
> see two things:
> 
> (1) A series of incidents that show a specific pattern:  3-4 cops
> that  
> do the same thing (esp. with proof:  e.g., pictures and/or a
> recording  
> of the request)
> (2) Kirsten taking the issue further by filing a formal
> complaint. at  
> the cop shop (or the city -- I'm not sure the correct venue) to
> see if  
> the city will enforce the law.  (We're all assuming they won't --
> but  
> actions speak louder than assumptions)
> 
> I'm glad that Kirsten posted her experience on the newswire --
> and I  
> think she should continue to post her experiences.  However, I'd
> like  
> wait until the pieces have fallen into place -- this will make
> the  
> editorial have more impact and relevancy . . .
> 
> -- Laury"
> 
> Bye bye. Good luck. 
> 
> Kirsten Anderberg
> 
>
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> 
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> 
> 
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Joseph